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23 comments:
Social workers should be involved here, she is still a child.
children do not go to dances and stay out till 2am....then stabbing another woman.she is big woman there
She is only 13.
Yes she is 13yrs.That she should consider before doing the crime. She must know that crime does not pay...therefore she needs to go to jail.There she will sit and ask herself questions since she never thought of asking her mother.
I think the lession is to send out a message to all.
"Train up a child from small and when they are grown they won't depart form it".
She is a woman at 13 years, and so she must be treated as one.
"Jail her backside"
Bordelais have enough space, she will be just fine there,Let her then get the help she needs,Cause out on the streets there was no help for her.
Common Regis... are you saying that Alcohol is the cause of crime?
I always know the your experience was poor.
You ae now trying to stop the people who investe in those business to be left without paying their bills.
The bar owner is in no position to know if the person standing at the bar is a child or an adult, Remember they do not ask for ID
So therefore you must know that the young people now makes themselves looks so much older than their age which makes it difficult to tell if one is dealing with a adult or a child.
"And I know you would know first hand what I am talking about"
The mother and father needs to know where their children are unless they too are in the same dealings.
So Regis ..again,Keep shut and think hard before you open you trap.
"you need to get someone else to seat in that chair you are occupying".
The Parents or guardians should be the ones in jail because it is their responsibility to look after the kid, they have failed her. As long as she's is a minor she is under their supervision. Shame on them.
AS for "A concern mother of two" when your neighbours house is on fire, you hose down yours hoping it won't catch on fire. What I'm trying to say is that it can happen to your kids too. This world is messed-up.
I am a proud st lucian who now resides in the united states growing up in st lucia was the best thing that ever happen to me because attending school with some of these american kids who disrespected their parents was terrible. i just know ithat could never get away with some of the mess they did, now my beautiful is getting the same way with kids and crime.
Where was this kid parents by god she is just a child committing grown folks crime. I think the parents should be held respondsible also cause they should have known where their kid was at 2am. The only dance we went to at that age was teenage dance and you had better have your butt at home at a decent time.
Stop praticing the way of the united states and go back to what work for us for so long and that is taking care of each other and our kids. I believe she should be tried as an adult cause she thought she was grown and committed an adult crime.
These kids have to learn there is consequences for your actions.
My st lucian people go back to raising your kids and stop having the system raise them for you.
The concerned mother of two sounds very irrational. "Jail her backside?"..lol..OK wow..You ever been to jail missy?..You believe any kind of rehabilitation is accomplished in there? At 13 years old living in that area it must have been pressure which allowed such a crime. She is not a "big woman" as her age clearly shows. She cannot be treated as a "big woman." No need for me to go into all the legalities and the counselling, anger management and all that "ray ray rah" which she will need and most certainly not get in prison.
As much as the american kids disrespect their parents and all that. The law certainly has a say. Back home it is difficult to do anything to urb a child on the wrong path. I remember growing up adn thinking "what can my parents really do to me?" They couldn't physically put me out. There comes an age when how much can you spank a child without it being child abuse? In the US your parents call the police and they tke you off to juvenile detention. They ship you to boarding school. Might not make a difference but it is a deterrent.
SHE SHOULD BE CHARGED AS AN ADULT. CHILDREN AT THAT AGE SHOULD NOT BE OUT AT THAT TIME.SHE WAS GROWN TO DO THE CRIME SHE SHOULD BE GROWN TO DO THE TIME. A YOUNG LADY IS DEAD, A FAMILY IS IN PAIN . SHE WILL BE BEHIND BARS HER FRIENDS AND FAMILY CAN VISIT BUT THE OTHER FAMILY DON'T HAVE THAT OPTION.
So whose fault is it for her being out that late? My parents didn't dare allow us to be out that late when we were teenagers. We had curfews, she obviously didn't.
I am a St. Lucian living in the US for 30 years. St. Lucia was one place on this earth I thought would never change from the way I knew it. To think that teenagers are killing each other is unthinkable to me. After reading your article, I cannot help but think that many people should be held accountable for this crime. These kids committed a crime and should be made an example of to the other teens out there in their gangs. They need to know that the will be imprisoned if they commit such unspeakable crimes. Where were the parents of this 13 year old girl who was allowed out at 2.00AM? As far as I am concerned, this child was doing "adult things" and she should be charged as one. The owner/s of this establishment should also be charged for allowing minors to gain access into his/her bar. Please send a message to the other teens out there that crimes like this will have stiff penalties. Maybe they will think twice before committing murder.
The problem of youth violence runs way deeper than this kid. The root of the problem is lack of social programs, lack of parenting and authorities who don't give a rat's behind about our future.
Believe it or not those kids are our future and they need help. I mean you can't straighten a full grown tree, it has to be done whilst it's still young.
So by blaming this kid alone we are missing the big picture and trust me these kids are holding the keys to Saint Lucia's future. Can you imagine a future generation with criminals only.
100% Bajun
She committed this crime as if she was an adult. At 13 yrs old why isn't she at home in her bed? Where are her parents? Did she sneaked out from at home? What does her parents have to say about all of this? I personally think that the parents and the child should be held responsible. She thought and acted as an adult and therefore should be treated as one. She should be placed on death row.
100% Bajun, the death penalty has proven over and over again that it doesn't deter crime and it's inhumane, that is why so many countries have abolished it. So stop your backwards thinking.
The 13yr old was influenced by the 20yr old and her group. It is relatively easy to be influenced at such a young age.
Rehabilitation is the way to go.
Where were this child's parent(s)? A number of things come into play here
1. responsible parenting (responsible parent(s) would never allow a 13 year old child to be out of the house at 2 am and of all the places at a bar)
2. lack of religious teachings (all of us have a conscience and unless mentally retarded we know right from wrong. The bible says train a child in the way he should go and when he becomes a man he will not depart from it)
I blame the parent(s) for not doing their part and also the child has a mind of her own to know that what she was about to do was wrong but then again she probably wanted to earn respect from her 19 year old friend
I definitely think she should be punished maybe not jail but something that would make her realise she did something really terrible and it should deter her from even thinking such thoughts in the future
she is not a child when murder is concerned my dear. i live in the area and i can tell you that those children have been keeping our lives a living hell.the truth is the parents are the ones to be blamed and honestly they too should b jailed .a child at that age should be home in bed at that time,they attack,rob,break into your homes and she went as far as been expelled from school for slapping a teacher.my last words on this is"TIME FOR SHE TO TAKE HER PUNISHMENT"and if they allow her to take a light sentence then SLU laws are not here to protect us
r dear Burke how can u dear say that living in that area it must have been pressure which allowed such a crime? every area has its problems but it is not the area,it's the PEOPLE!!!!!!!her mother allowed her to go rampant and when u warned her of her daughters problems she wouldn't budge to stop her she encouraged her as far as i see it.so don't u dear go saying such things because there are people like her everywhere,even in your own back yard
A query and comment about cases like these in St. Lucia; and i hope some if not all can be answered.
Is there psychological evaluation being done on the "minors" to determine their state of mind both at the time of the crime and also in general?
Reason being that in other judicial systems, which ours is not much different from, a minor is not just determined by his/her age but also by the level of maturity, intelligence and state of mind; this being derived by a psychological evaluation. The results along with the age factor would then determine if the "child" will be tried as an adult or minor.
A query and comment about cases like these in St. Lucia; and i hope some it can be answered.
Is there psychological evaluation being done on the "minors" to determine their state of mind both at the time of the crime and also in general?
Reason being that in other judicial systems, which ours is not much different from, a minor is not just determined by his/her age but also by the level of maturity, intelligence and state of mind; this being derived by a psychological evaluation. The results along with the age factor would then determine if the "child" will be tried as an adult or minor.
If it is true that she slapped a teacher and was expelled then I blame both the parents and the system because social services should have been called. Then they would investigate the family to see what was going on and if they weren't satisfied then they would take her away from the parents.
But now it's too late, she has fell through the cracks of the system.
I agree with the previous comments regarding social work input, this child needs support to come to terms with her actions,she is a child with no internal boundaries or power, this is exactly how shildren like her behave when they feel powerless. Emotional abuse can create Sociopaths, people who don't feel another person pain. If this child has lacked parental guidance and supervision, they too should hold some accountability for their neglect. I am amazed by some of the comments particularly those from 'chrisitians', those same people who think its ok for children to have relationships and babies at a young age, and as many partners that can be fitted in, with more fathers than hot dinners; on an island where sex and music are the only topics that appear to be important, chuch goers or not. Open your eyes St. Lucia and teach your young children real values that are important for life. Where is the consideration and empathy for others, where are the boundaries around what is socially acceptable and what isn't? Life here seems cheap as demonstrated by all those people who maim and kill, this is a culture that is sick, sort it out now before the island becomes a no go area.
Yes those so called christians are the most hypocritical bunch in the world. They go to church for one day and spend the rest of the week secretly breaking the commandments. They also believe in 'eye for an eye'. No wonder when they fall, they fall really hard.
she need to pay just like a woman pays,,,,child dont come in this,she has a mind of an evil woman
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