LPM: “A Nation Today, Can Rise No Higher Than Its Women”

Tuesday, January 11, 2011

LPM: “A Nation Today, Can Rise No Higher Than Its Women”

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Anonymous said...: HUMN........HUMN......HUMN......; January 11, 2011 at 3:39 PM
Anonymous said...: Qui ca vlais dit ca, Anonymous #1? Madame la parlay. Qui ca ou nee pour dit?; January 11, 2011 at 4:52 PM
Anonymous said...: Sounds like a bit of a rant from someone who really needs to read the social data on St. Lucia and speand some time with the social services people and get to know more about what options disadvantaged families have.

Lots of passion but some more substance required. Too many generalities for someone aiming for politics. I am just not getting knowledge and understanding from this piece.; January 12, 2011 at 3:03 AM
Anonymous said...: Great piece. Keep it up young lady.; January 12, 2011 at 3:46 AM
Anonymous said...: We know that a male-dominated culture does not accept that the nasty conditions created by that section of the population is what we are reaping today.

Like most Third World thinking countries any attempt to insert the values and concerns that women bring to the table of national development is either ridiculed, ignored or undervalued.

That what has been clearly and moderately presented is here being characterized as a rant, is not unexpected. In backward countries and areas of the world which are essentially male-dominated and tribal like Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Africa, the Middle East the males are even less charitable.

Male dominating attitudes result in the burning of women for dowry and marriages related to caste, honour killings, female genital manipulation, resulting in death but done mainly for male pleasure, the need for five women witnesses to counter that of one man's evidence.

See the difference with Europe in terms of societal and economic growth. We have much to learn and have very far to go.

Thanks Ms. Browne for waking us up. The ignorant like the poor we will always have with us.

Those wishing to learn about the positive role of women in the 21st century should attempt to prevail on the SALCC to mount a course or go online.

That related comment by Anon. #3 indicated by party hackism and deep social backwardness too.

Our education system continues to fail us. We as a people have yet to learn how to learn by own selves without a teacher or a classroom. Yet we call ourselves independent.

Compton and his Bousquet ministers of miseducation have created a population of dependent of grown-up little children, who can only lie, cheat, steal and now kill wantonly for economic survival.

There is hope with people like you. Unlike what that lying political hack and cheat said above, you have pointed out very, very clearly what a women's agenda has in store for us as St. Lucians. Thanks.

Way to go Ms Browne! Two thumbs up!!; January 12, 2011 at 6:32 AM
Anonymous said...: Just another mindless ,politically correct jingoistic piece of pap from a group that have yet in their own lives shown any inclination towards doing anything to really change St. Lucia.; January 12, 2011 at 10:19 AM
Anonymous said...: The battle lines will be drawn. The idiocy of semi-literate males dominating the society is there for all to see.

That semi-literate village ram does not know the meaning of jingoistic. Another of our political idiots repeating what they don't understand and bleating like sheep.

Jingoistic relates to the belief that other countries are not as good as your own, and that your government should never trust them or being fanatically patriotic.

What the hell does jingoism have to do with equal rights and representation in government.

You went to the same classes with retards like Marcus Nicolas and Guy Joseph? You'all can read words but can't understand them?; January 12, 2011 at 12:22 PM
Anonymous said...: UWP and SLP have not been able to change St Lucia for the better in 60 years, yet you want LPM to do in a few months what the UWP and SLP have not been able to do.

People we have to learn to be fair to others. Like the UWP and SLP they have the right to share how they feel. No one died and left the UWP or SLP in change of St Lucia. None of us should be force to accept them if we don't want too.

I hope for St Lucia's sake they don't give up!!; January 12, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Anonymous said...: That semi-literate village ram does not know the meaning of jingoistic. Another of our political idiots repeating what they don't understand and bleating like sheep.

LOL

Forgive him. He just saw that word on a Billboard this morning. LOL; January 12, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Anonymous said...: Whereas the LPM pick up any politically correct, pie in the sky jingoistic pap and lather their web site and speeches with this nonsense as they march in lock step to their denoument on the day of Elections.

In any constituency we know the result come election time 21 days after the bell is rung:

UWP and SLP - 98% of the vote combined.

Independent- 1.5%

LPM - 0.5%

now dat is LOL !!!; January 12, 2011 at 4:57 PM
Anonymous said...: UWP and SLP -Membet -Mem Pwell. Different day same difference.; January 12, 2011 at 6:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Why pay attention to a party whose leader, a lawyer is not even good at his craft. He could not even see the flaws in the contract he had drawn up for the shysters to sign.

Now if the man studied law for some six year or more and cannot even draw up a contract document, do you think he can fathom economics.

His partner here does not even understand the meaning of the word jingoism. Like Kenny of the kennel society and King of the killing fields dey don't understand bull foot from bull cow how to develop an economy.

Jackasses win at the polls every day in St. Lucia. Don't they have a host of other jackasses as dumb supporters? Who do you believe elected Bruce Tucker, Marcus Nicolas, Guy Mayers, Guy Joseph and so on? Who is on radio and TV supporting this band of idiots? Two other famous dumbells.

How do you expect such jackass leaders to understand how women can help to rebuild the hell hole they have created.; January 12, 2011 at 7:23 PM
Julie said...: Very interesting read.; January 13, 2011 at 6:52 AM
Anonymous said...: Stop repeating the women's issues in other countries about dowry burnings. Deal with women's issues in St. Lucia. Go and talk to social services do some research about what women and young men for that matter go through in St. Lucia.

Hard facts and analysis is what a politician should come with not generalities that sounds like a rant about women's rights.

Ofcourse there are marginalised women in St. Lucia. You need to tell me how they are marginalised and what you have in your manifesto to deal about it.

Not a party hack ...just a St. Lucian's who cares.

Its clear that you guys do not care or else you would not be quoting things happening in the Middle East and Africa that have nothing to do with the social situation of women in St. Lucia.

As I said go talk to the women's centres and social services in St. Lucia then you will know. Read the reports ...they can be made available to you...then you can write an informed piece about women in St. Lucia

Until then this sounds like a convenient slogan.; January 13, 2011 at 7:49 AM
Anonymous said...: How come for all the time we have had adult suffrage, we have so few women representatives in parliament? Where are the women decision makers in parliament? Why aren't the women issues as the article points out, not better ventilated? Why do we have mainly male talk show hosts?

Which party has been in existence the longest in St. Lucia again?

Now, if SLP is less backward than the UWP, why aren't there more women in leadership positions in the SLP? Isn't the SLP the longest surviving party in St. Lucia going all the way back to the 1930s?

The males in St. Lucia have screwed up the lives of the young males in St. Lucia. Too many morons have been elected to parliament in the past. That is why.

Talk about female rginalisation? If the SLP gets into power, it will have to build a bigger prison to put all the males going into the drug trade to make a living.

SLP did not have an answer to that the last time. Just like the UWP, it does not have an answer to this now either.

Jawboning about slogans does not cut it anymore. Go back and find answers. Stop fooling yourself that you're making sense anymore. The results are staring you and everyone in the face. PAST AND CURRENT GOVERNMENTS HAVE BEEN FAILURES.

If all what the SLP did and has done, has brought us to this, including the election of the UWP instead of the SLP, then it is quite stunning I know, for SLP followers to accept that what they did was not good enough. Thick head, WHAT SLP DID NOT WORK!

I think that the UWI lecturer has given some telling blows to the male chauvinistic attitudes that is surfacing here. You are in effect saying that the SLP or the UWP or both parties have taken care of business. You have done it right. You have done enough.

Yet, the society as she correctly states, or you fail to see, is crumbling all around us, because both parties have failed to take on board the real issues that matter in BUILDING a civilized society.

It ain't done, or it ain't done properly because UWP and SLP has fathered the mayhem we have on the streets. A party has to take care of everybody, the present and lay the foundation for the future. St. Lucia is now the Wild West. Life is cheap.

Is this the future that your parties went on the platform asking people for their votes? You expect sane people to give SLP and UWP a chance to repeat this great achievement again?; January 13, 2011 at 8:35 AM
Anonymous said...: another senseless rant...; January 13, 2011 at 8:58 AM
Anonymous said...: The election has not even been called yet and you out of steam already? You sound like Melissa Rambally. You are very limited, You can make sentences with just two words, rant and jingoistic?

Garcon, the person write about women. Write about what SLP has done for women. It seems that you're stuck wee?

I have just been to the luciantalk.com. That LPM lady's bio shows that she has both brains and beauty.; January 13, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Reason said...: From what I can read. There one or two of the bloggers here are trying to get the young woman to make sure that what she can offer concrete solutions to the women of St. Lucia based on familiarizing herself with their plight.

Frankly I agree somewhat with the person talking getting to know the plight of women in St. Lucia has to say. As a young politician esp a woman, Ms. Browne should make sure she starts out on the right foot and not make the mistake of her male colleagues.

That's what I read into the blogger's comments. all I can say is, she is young yet and has alot to learn since there is no one to learn it from she might as well go and talk to the people who know.

If you enter politics with little experience thinking you know everything and cannot recognise when you are getting advice on how to strengthen your platform and your skills ...well I don't know what to say.

for all the people screaming Flambeau, Labour etc at every opportunity...knock it off...its not interesting nor helpful and you sound a bit deranged; January 14, 2011 at 4:09 AM
Anonymous said...: Our women are so accustomed to repeating male chauvinistic drivel that they are asking a women to find out what women problems are.

Man, this is a load of crap. The lady is married. She is raising a whole family with her step-son, brother and all. She has lived abroad. She has international experience, something that some companies today will not promote you unless you have this. She is a lecturer on Gender for the University of the West Indies issues with links to organizations around the world. She is an innovator and pioneer. She started an organization to help students in St. Lucia reach their academic goals.

Does that sound like an immature and inexperienced person. Too, young? How many candidates can boast of being internationally linked, are pioneers and innovators? The PM, Guy Mayers, Guy Joseph? Rufus Bousquet? Oh yes. Ex jailbirds!; January 14, 2011 at 5:41 AM
Anonymous said...: "She is a lecturer on gender for University of the west indies issues....."
i.e. another follower of the liberal/socialist agenda of isms that has completely failed our people from the time of Independence in all our caribbean islands. The same victimhood culture that has African Americans with a 60+% abortion rate in New York and the highest unemployment rate in America. Compliments of all the gender, racism, isms adocates who destroy our peoples' ability to move forward in the 20th and 21st century.
The same isms academic training that has us with a 40 to 50 murder rate annually.

There is absolutely nothing she can say or do to advance the progress of our people as has been proven by the above statement.; January 14, 2011 at 3:34 PM
Anonymous said...: I agree with the blogger who talked about liberal discourse. From what I can see from the comments apparently because she is a woman and married etc., lecturer etc she is the repository of all knowledge regarding what ails St. Lucian women...because obviously St. Lucian women cannot speak for themselves and tell her what their issues are...

because in their words "Our women are so accustomed to repeating male chauvinistic drivel"

So obviously they do not have a voice and univesrity educated women must appoint themselves as their spokes persons without consulting them.

I hate to break it to you but Ms. Browne is hardly the average St. Lucian woman so she cannot claim to have walked a mile in their shoes. She also has zero political experience so it would do to watch and learn.

This is the same attitude white, middle class feminist discourse adopted toward African/Black, Arab, Indian and Asian women that they are down trodden and cannot speak so they the white middle class women must speak for them.There is a back lash against this kind of arrogant elitist feminist discourse

Yes I am well versed on the International Law of minority and women's rights and economic social and cultural rights...yes international lawyers are reading this too

She is a green politician with alot to learn...to start from a plance where one is so closed to receive ideas is fatal...in that she is no different to the male politicians around her; January 15, 2011 at 5:30 AM
Anonymous said...: Lawyers are only in the business of creating confusion to make money out of it. They will argue opposite sides of a case with equal enthusiasm. If you are not from the region, go peddle your BS where you came from. There are issues still to be settled.

International expertise in minority rights in other countries does not necessarily mean that you understand one issue relating to what is happening in St. Lucia. That is where Ms Browne comes from. She was born there and grew up there.

Take your crap elsewhere!; January 15, 2011 at 7:29 AM
Anonymous said...: You have made several assumptions in your post.
1.) That I am not born and bred St. Lucian

For the record I am born and bred St. Lucian

3.) That somehow a St. Lucian or someone from the regioncannot be an international lawyer.

For the record many well respected international lawyers, legal experts and judges are from the Caribbean (St. Lucia included).

3.)That International Lawyers are the same as domestic lawyers in taking cases.

Though some do argue before international courts...most are legal experts who draft treaties, work on intergovernmental agreements and provide advice on implementation of international treaties.

I am a St. Lucian national and have a right to comment on what is happening in my country's politics and to give my views like everyone else.

People offering themselves for political office need to be held to a high standard whether they be men or women...That standard includes understanding the society that they are about to offer themselves to lead.

You seem to have alot of anger. This kind of politics is killing St. Lucia...no body wants to be serious about policy all they want to do is find strategies to win votes.

I guess 'no woman no cry' is a good gimmick to try to get votes....

But I have a feeling most women in SLU are alot smarter than that!; January 15, 2011 at 7:56 AM
Anonymous said...: ABSOLUTELY you have a right to speak as a St. Lucian woman!

The person who rudely answered your cogent blog is precisely the failed liberal/socialist welfare type recipient created by the American liberal establishemet that has kept down our black people in white America. As you stated it is these white liberal feminists who beleive they can tell our beautiful, intelligent strong black women what to do.

Their society is on the skids because their feminism , racism centric philosophy has marginalized males and more so BLACK MEN.

Ms. Browne from UWI can almost be guaranteed to be a parrot for this liberal religion which we know has sent us "one step forward, two steps backward" in our progress in the Caribbean.

The ignorant blogger (in more senses than one) ASSUMED you were not a Lucian because you were qualified as an international lawyer. Typical Massa mentality as the liberal left in their lack of tolerance cannot beleive that anyone not part of their failed religion can be qualified.

These liberals have this intense anger, hatred and intolerance for those who disagree with them and it came out plain and simple when one of the LPM supporters was on a Rick Wayne show last year.; January 15, 2011 at 9:10 AM
Anonymous said...: Wow.

I read this post and picked up on a lot of just negative foolishness; pseduo-intellectual, "well informed" comments (i.e. about Browne being a liberal/socialist because she went to university - as if all people in university are liberal/socialists) being masked as real political dialogue. The funny thing is I bet most of these comments came from men.

Browne is speaking of women stepping into their rightful place because women by nature are more empathetic and receptive. This is why women always made up parts of govenrnent in soceities that valued wisdom. Not ego-stroking intellectual banter.

Politics is not about knowing obscure colonial-english words that most of the citizens of any nation probably don't know or use, it's not about liberal-socialism as being the root of the oppression of blacks in the USA (bogus), or uninformed character judgements.

It's about being a medium for your people. Being a conduit for the views of your nation. I haven't heard one person speak on an issue they would like to be discussed by her. A question, or a concern. It's been 'oh she went to this university', 'passion but no substance', 'jingoism'. Are you kidding me?

Good luck. The political landscape in most Carribean nations today seems to have become more about tearing each other down then seeing what can be built collectively. A real crabs in a barrel mentality. Brush it off. Women Take Your Rightful Place. You know what time it is.

Ase.; January 16, 2011 at 4:32 PM
Unknown said...: why do some persons feel it necessary to name call, and be so blatantly dis-respective to make a point.

positive criticism is far more productive than persons simply taking jabs at each other when clearly, no one person is ever truly completely informed of any issue..; January 16, 2011 at 7:54 PM
Anonymous said...: women must rise up now and take their rightful places in society. Congrats miss .Browne for taking the bold step. I know you are gonna make it !!!; January 17, 2011 at 8:40 AM
Anonymous said...: These are the real truths we do not hear from our academics and we will not find from the liberal media that is killing our societies. either will we hear it from Ms. Browne the perfect modern femininst.

Forty Years of Feminism Now Bearing Fruit

A new documentary, Oral Sex Is the New Goodnight Kiss, chronicles America's moral decay. Sharlene Azam, a Canadian filmmaker, says, "If you talk to teens [about oral sex], they'll tell you it's not a big deal. In fact, they don't consider it sex. They don't consider a lot of things sex." In the documentary, teenage girls talk casually about their sexual experiences and even their forays into prostitution.

One girl sums up the new attitudes: "Five minutes and I got $100. If I'm going to sleep with them anyway because they're good-looking, might as well get paid for it, right?"

Azam said that this was going on in good homes right under parents' noses: "The prettiest girls from the most successful families [are the most at risk]. We're not talking about marginalized girls. [Parents] don't want to know because they really don't know what to do. I mean, you might be prepared to learn that, at age 12, your daughter has had sex, but what are you supposed to do when your daughter has traded her virginity for $1,000 or a new bag?"

This is the bitter fruit of forty years of feminist domination in the United States.

Virtue, self-worth, and man's moral value are DOA in the age of the cultural domination of the left. What an awful stench this decaying corpse gives off, lying in a smoldering, fetid pile of ash.

This is how the phony feminist movement empowered women? Girls selling the it for a handbag? Those men-hating parasites have ruined the glorious exaltation of women in 20th-century America. I know. I grew up in it. All one has to do is watch movies from the forties, fifties, and sixties (before the left culture rout) to catch a glimpse of the status of women. We were then formidable, respected, treasured, and above all...revered. It was as good as it gets.

Azam's vulgar and depressing documentary is no surprise. The atmosphere is already poisoned by the left's attitudes toward teenage sex. And these attitudes come out everywhere. Two weeks ago, in Crosby Middle School in Hitchcock, Texas, a member of the Hitchcock school board, Shirley Price, gave what was supposed to be a motivational talk to sixth-, seventh-, and eighth-grade girls. Instead, she gave a graphic, smut-filled rant about oral and anal sex.

I am sickened by this -- not because I am prudish, but because it speaks volumes about how girls view themselves and their roles, not to mention the ever-increasing diminishing of women in American society.; January 17, 2011 at 10:43 AM
Anonymous said...: To say that feminism was one of the worst things to happen to women is being easy. It has been worse for men. The demon seeds of the "liberation" movement are everywhere -- including the epidemic of single motherhood, the breakdown of the American family, the street vernacular of "bitches and hos," the emasculation of men, and the bone-crushing responsibility of single moms acting as mother, father, breadwinner, chief cook, and bottle-washer.

And what has Obama done about all this? He has appointed Kevin Jennings, the founder of GLSEN (Gay, Lesbian, Straight Education Network), to be his Safe Schools Czar. GLSEN is notorious for having sponsored a conference at Tufts University at which teenagers were given instruction in an array of risky and dangerous sexual practices. Obama has appointed this radical to head up America's "safe schools," but who is going to keep kids safe from him? This is another terrible Obama choice. Whatever one's sexual preferences or proclivities may be, do not traumatize children. Why can't the schools just teach reading, writing, arithmetic -- and civics?

But this is no surprise, of course. A breakdown of sexual mores and a flouting of convention is part and parcel of the agenda in every society to which socialism has come.

Mamas, don't let your babies grow up to be lefties.

Every child in America, all 73.7 million of them, should be kept safe from the leftist inculcation of the public school curriculum. Taxpayer money should be used to help set up home-schooling networks and resources across the country.

We spend more per capita on education than virtually every other nation, and yet we rank close to the bottom in math and science -- so busy are our children being force-fed global warming junk science, the LGBT agenda, a whitewashed Muhammad, and other assorted propaganda.

This is how the left has been destroying America since they took over in the '60s. Now the teenage girls in Azam's documentary are reaping what the left has been sowing for decades.; January 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Anonymous said...: So our people have gone straight from slavery into this - no wonder we are being kept at the bottom of the pile.; January 17, 2011 at 10:47 AM
Anonymous said...: This should not be primarily about women. It should be about the nation as a whole. We need women who can lead this nation progressively and who have the ability and the wisdom to create an open, just and harmonious society that may beneficial to all. We don't need insularity, so we ought not to make this about just women taking a stand against the ills that have been dished out to them over the years. Let us pray for good,strong female leadership. Women are by nature, better at nurturing and surely they can nurse this nation back to what it is supposed to do. We may not be able to fix what is already broken, but we can sure prevent further damage.; January 18, 2011 at 7:51 AM
Anonymous said...: Annoymous,University educated does not make for prudent leadership. many are the fools that hail from Universities. I am not trying to downplay the lady, but flowery words do not mean a thing. She can have all the education in the world yet can turn out to be worse than the dim bat male politicians we now have to contend with. Whether male or female we need people with the wisdom and the know how to take this country out of the chaos that now envelopes it. Sometimes we talk tough but when it comes to the crux of the situation, we shuffle like broken toy soldiers. He or she who has the
knowledge and understanding,take he under their wings and groom her please, because we will need more than a University educated or an internationally experienced person to put this country on its feet again.; January 18, 2011 at 8:02 AM
Anonymous said...: Did some of you people read the same article above. Ms. Browne said nothing about sexual mores or conduct. She spoke about gender equality. If you reread the details which outlines as women's concerns, you will see the nurturing issues there in black and white.

I saw no liberal agenda. Why then must a university education mean an automatic inclination to accept American standards.

What she made absolutely clear, yet in muted terms, was the notion that you cannot overly rely on a male dominated culture to right the imbalances. We need to make our women go places where they have never been before in terms of recognizable achievements in disciplines, and in positions of authority and responsibility where they have been discouraged.

There was so much overlap between what can be said to be a male agenda and what she highlighted as they way forward, that it made the criticism of her position as female only moot.

For all the boast about being very versed in minority issues, why aren't St. Lucian women more advanced in terms of proportional representation in the society's leading institutions? If that were all that it takes, shouldn't the status of women reflect greater advancement since gaining independence?; January 18, 2011 at 5:28 PM

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