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Thursday, October 1, 2009
Herman Challenges Collective Agreement of Prison Officers
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I find Herman to be very rude and out of place, to want to remove the benefits the officers fought so hard to earn over the years. I want people to know that he is retired and is recieving a pension, he should fight, and write to the ministry asking them to prevent people like him who is already recieving a pension, to be be employed, preventing another person from being gainfully employed. The people who was bombarding the officers, now they see why Herman is not wanted at the prison. A boss should look after the interest of he workers, and not to take from them what they already have. I think he should to fight for some sort of insurance for the officers, because officers are being assulted on a daily basis, and is even killed by inmates, we had example of that before (KILLING), instead of trying to take from what they have. I hope Mayers will understand and not create any more havoc at the prison, by bring back Herman, because the officers will not stand idly be while their rights are being trampled over.
It must be noted that Mr. Herman stated openly at the inception of the facility that he does not know anything about corrections. During his tenure there were no changes observed about his mode of operation. He operates the Facility with a clique that their individual needs, decisions, and recommendations outweighed the needs, decisions and recommendations of all other staff at the workplace
During his five years tenure, he operated using the method of divide and rule. That mode of operation created lots of problems at the facility causing the formation of several fractions. This resulted in the lost of direction and a disregard for the goals of the facility. The division caused by Mr. Herman, the monster which he created, became uncontrollable despite several attempts at the ministerial level to resolve it.
Under the leadership of Mr. Herman the facility faced a breakdown in the level of discipline which was once present. As an experience ex-military soldier, he totally disregarded rank and file in a Para-military organization. His theory was, rank does not matter, and it does not mean responsibility but more money. His incompetence was visible, where he was unable to get his top management staff to work together which filtered down to the line staff. The end result of his incompetence was chaos, forcing him to leave the facility.
I was netural on the returned of Mr Herman to head Bordelais, but after reading this article,my mind has changed. If this article is correct on Mr herman's views of the collective aggrement for workers, then under no circumstances what-so-ever, should Mr Herman be allowed to returned to Head this Facility.
I guess Herman tried to change too much in a short space of time. His actions were noble: To help reduce labour costs while making a more efficient labour force but this would always cause friction among the employees.
It would have been easier to phase it in with new hires rather than impose it on the existing staff.
I find it strange if not ignorant that Herman should state in reference to illness during annual leave that "I find this article counterproductive and probable exist only in Saint Lucia." Has he been living under a rock?
Staff members who are ill during a period of annual holiday may be entered to treat the days of sickness as days of sickness absence and count them against sick pay entitlement. They must satisfy Institution that the illness was genuine and must provide a doctor’s certificate. Subject to management approval, days of annual holiday lost through illness may be taken again at a later date.
Well, our labour productivity suffers in this country and we should work to elevate that level of output first before looking at labour articles that promote even further loss in productive hours. Don't you think?
I think this man was trying to change Laziness and corrupt practices of the prison officers too. I was told the amount of drugs etc. which prison officers may have been filtering to prisoners for a fee was not tolerated. Wonder if he was trying to change the Prisons too fast!!!
I see nothing about laziness and currupt practices in the article. When we and Herman(he does not work nights) are all asleep in our cozy beds, these poor officers are in the cold in the hills of Dennery guarding the worse of our criminals, to keep us safe and during the day they have to put up with all the insults and assults, and people talking about laziness. You cannot take away benefits already gained from workers and expect to reduce corruption. ZEIGY, it is not the job of Herman to reduce labour cost, his job is to ran an effective prison. He cannot phase any labour saving cost on new employees either, because all the benefits are already signed into the workers agreement package. The officers are all paying a fee towards their association to reprsent them anytime any of the clause in the agreement is breached. Herman is trying to bring the wrong changes to the prison.
There is a particular prison officer on this blog who is on a crusade...... WOW.....I wish you luck. I suspect.....Herman must have rub you the wrong way man/woman....Get hold of yourself....he will most probably be your boss....so quit your angry blog and denigration of Herman!!!
I have not read any blog which sounds angry or one that has denigrate Herman. Boy, boy, boy my fellow St Lucians, they know how to turn things around. A prison officer has the right just like you, to air his or her views.
Hey, Lets get something right here! Mr. Herman is a good man. However, it is my opinion that his style and method is not appropriate for our lifestyle in St. Lucia. Anyway concerning Article 17.2 ref: 20 years service. Guys this is state security. I strongly think that the 20 years may seem a bit short depending on the time you join the service. People are dying younger right now and you cannot tell people to maintina a good health record now, when things are very expensive. I beleive (I am not sure) that one can join the service from 18 to 35 years of age. Therefore is you guys go for the 20 years service, someone who joins the service at 35 years can retire at 55 years which is a good enough age for retirement.With NIS contributors they retire at age 65 or 70. Do you think 65 to 70 year olds can still have enough energy to run the prison in this modern world and limited resources at our state security facility? This is not a regular work place. Remember guys working is a prison is alot of stress. Most of those persons may have Diabetes, Alzeimers, Hearing and Sight lost just to name a few by age 40 and onwards if not before that. Yes there will be younger officers to help, but there will also be a set of persons idling and our prison security at risk. It is my opinion that Essential Service Officers should all be given a 20 - 25 year period of service to they country before retirement. Remember the people are working for the country. Yes they no the risk. Being cheap causes more lost and problems for the country.
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I find Herman to be very rude and out of place, to want to remove the benefits the officers fought so hard to earn over the years. I want people to know that he is retired and is recieving a pension, he should fight, and write to the ministry asking them to prevent people like him who is already recieving a pension, to be be employed, preventing another person from being gainfully employed. The people who was bombarding the officers, now they see why Herman is not wanted at the prison. A boss should look after the interest of he workers, and not to take from them what they already have. I think he should to fight for some sort of insurance for the officers, because officers are being assulted on a daily basis, and is even killed by inmates, we had example of that before (KILLING), instead of trying to take from what they have. I hope Mayers will understand and not create any more havoc at the prison, by bring back Herman, because the officers will not stand idly be while their rights are being trampled over.
It must be noted that Mr. Herman stated openly at the inception of the facility that he does not know anything about corrections. During his tenure there were no changes observed about his mode of operation. He operates the Facility with a clique that their individual needs, decisions, and recommendations outweighed the needs, decisions and recommendations of all other staff at the workplace
During his five years tenure, he operated using the method of divide and rule. That mode of operation created lots of problems at the facility causing the formation of several fractions. This resulted in the lost of direction and a disregard for the goals of the facility. The division caused by Mr. Herman, the monster which he created, became uncontrollable despite several attempts at the ministerial level to resolve it.
Under the leadership of Mr. Herman the facility faced a breakdown in the level of discipline which was once present. As an experience ex-military soldier, he totally disregarded rank and file in a Para-military organization. His theory was, rank does not matter, and it does not mean responsibility but more money. His incompetence was visible, where he was unable to get his top management staff to work together which filtered down to the line staff. The end result of his incompetence was chaos, forcing him to leave the facility.
I was netural on the returned of Mr Herman to head Bordelais, but after reading this article,my mind has changed. If this article is correct on Mr herman's views of the collective aggrement for workers, then under no circumstances what-so-ever, should Mr Herman be allowed to returned to Head this Facility.
I guess Herman tried to change too much in a short space of time. His actions were noble: To help reduce labour costs while making a more efficient labour force but this would always cause friction among the employees.
It would have been easier to phase it in with new hires rather than impose it on the existing staff.
I find it strange if not ignorant that Herman should state in reference to illness during annual leave that "I find this article counterproductive and probable exist only in Saint Lucia." Has he been living under a rock?
Staff members who are ill during a period of annual holiday may be entered to treat the days of sickness as days of sickness absence and count them against sick pay entitlement. They must satisfy Institution that the illness was genuine and must provide a doctor’s certificate. Subject to management approval, days of annual holiday lost through illness may be taken again at a later date.
Well, our labour productivity suffers in this country and we should work to elevate that level of output first before looking at labour articles that promote even further loss in productive hours. Don't you think?
I think this man was trying to change Laziness and corrupt practices of the prison officers too.
I was told the amount of drugs etc. which prison officers may have been filtering to prisoners for a fee was not tolerated.
Wonder if he was trying to change the Prisons too fast!!!
I see nothing about laziness and currupt practices in the article. When we and Herman(he does not work nights) are all asleep in our cozy beds, these poor officers are in the cold in the hills of Dennery guarding the worse of our criminals, to keep us safe and during the day they have to put up with all the insults and assults, and people talking about laziness. You cannot take away benefits already gained from workers and expect to reduce corruption. ZEIGY, it is not the job of Herman to reduce labour cost, his job is to ran an effective prison. He cannot phase any labour saving cost on new employees either, because all the benefits are already signed into the workers agreement package. The officers are all paying a fee towards their association to reprsent them anytime any of the clause in the agreement is breached. Herman is trying to bring the wrong changes to the prison.
There is a particular prison officer on this blog who is on a crusade......
WOW.....I wish you luck.
I suspect.....Herman must have rub you the wrong way man/woman....Get hold of yourself....he will most probably be your boss....so quit your angry blog and denigration of Herman!!!
I have not read any blog which sounds angry or one that has denigrate Herman. Boy, boy, boy my fellow St Lucians, they know how to turn things around. A prison officer has the right just like you, to air his or her views.
lol
what is going on here ?
Is this the next big thing ?
Hey, Lets get something right here! Mr. Herman is a good man. However, it is my opinion that his style and method is not appropriate for our lifestyle in St. Lucia. Anyway concerning Article 17.2 ref: 20 years service. Guys this is state security. I strongly think that the 20 years may seem a bit short depending on the time you join the service. People are dying younger right now and you cannot tell people to maintina a good health record now, when things are very expensive. I beleive (I am not sure) that one can join the service from 18 to 35 years of age. Therefore is you guys go for the 20 years service, someone who joins the service at 35 years can retire at 55 years which is a good enough age for retirement.With NIS contributors they retire at age 65 or 70. Do you think 65 to 70 year olds can still have enough energy to run the prison in this modern world and limited resources at our state security facility? This is not a regular work place. Remember guys working is a prison is alot of stress. Most of those persons may have Diabetes, Alzeimers, Hearing and Sight lost just to name a few by age 40 and onwards if not before that. Yes there will be younger officers to help, but there will also be a set of persons idling and our prison security at risk. It is my opinion that Essential Service Officers should all be given a 20 - 25 year period of service to they country before retirement. Remember the people are working for the country. Yes they no the risk. Being cheap causes more lost and problems for the country.
Does Herman wants the officers to go back in time-50 years?
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