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Here again you are using statistics to mislead. There is a lot of noise in the data you quoted, especially that of the United States. It is true that the current white population of the United States is about 72% but did you tell your audience that only about 36% of white registered voters came out on election day. And out of that 36%, fewer than 40% voted for Mr. Obama. Would you then agree that the U.S. is still a very divided country? Mr. Obama was able to win the elections by galvanizing the two minority groups you eloquently wrote about. He received about 95% of the African-American and 75% of the Hispanics votes and a very high percentage of people considered as others. I think you are make a false equivalency between Obama and Chastanet. Mr. Obama could never win any election in the deep south with the exception of Flodida. He won Florida because many north easterners have settled there. The objection to Mr. Chastnet ascendance to the top spot of the UWP stems from the history of white supremacy and colonization. You may be an apologist for Mr. Chastnet but it still stands to reason that any white person who is to lead a black country should be viewed as a suspect. Let us reverse the situation! Would any European, Asian, or Latin American countries elect a Black Man to the helm of its political organization? Are you aware of the insults leveled against the first black minister of government in Italian? I am happy you have addressed this pressing issue but let us not be too myopic and examine all angles carefully.
Statement 1:”That Michael Chastanet would have to spend valuable advertising time on Choice TV explaining his son’s complexion and the reason why it is so is absolutely ridiculous.”
Statement 2: in part reads this: “throw in his limited involvement in the Tuxedo Villas affair”
Statement 3:”If you go to certain Facebook pages, you would even see people stitching poorly-written sentences in English (Saint Lucia’s official language) criticizing Chastanet for not being adept in English. Heaven knows”
#1: This country remains in shit street if most Saint Lucians’ thought processes and logic is this flawed. Clearly the solemn nonsense in the first statement is that in a democracy, the electorate does mark ballots to elect business partnerships. Partnerships is the effective word here. The electorate is supposed to vote for individuals for individual seats being contested the election. That the idiocy appearing here suggesting that it is alright to have a father who owns a NATIONAL monopoly to promote his son is jackass reasoning, where the failure to see big money controlling our domestic politics.
ALL THAT IS BEING DONE HERE IS ENDORSING AND WIDENING ACCEPTANCE THAT THE ALLEN CHASTANET'S FATHER SHOULD BE RUNNING THIS COUNTRY FROM THE BACK SEAT. And that is very dangerous for a holder of a national MONOPOLIST with other business interests.
The complexion issue only looms large in the picture because that family has had no history of doing any type of community promotion of any national activity. ALL BUSINESS-RELATED POLITICAL DONATIONS ARE SELF-SERVING.
Unemployable elsewhere, the son is now looking for a pension.
#2: The jackass writing lacks any semblance of maturity. Pontificating about issues touching on cabinet government is not the writer’s strongest suit. Any minister, has full and ultimate responsibility for all what happens in that ministry. That Holy Saint John Compton had yes-men broomsticks and airheads as ministers does not vitiate the argument. In a proper functioning democracy based on the Westminster system, the Minister in charge even resigns when functionaries mess up even without their knowledge. Besides to be so dismissive of the findings of the OECS Appellate Court regarding not being present and not taking part in the decision involving one’s own ministry reeks of selective perception. Uh! The writer sucks!
To talk all the crap of the “assumed” acceptance of Obama, when the Red Neck States’ representatives plotted just after his election to make him one-term president and to persist to this day to obstruct even the measures they at one time proposed, is the idiocy of not knowing what one is talking about. Again, the president of the US is constrained by the press of the US, the Supreme Court of the US, and the two houses of Congress. The prime minister “elect” of the UWP has no such ties. Who stopped the goons in the last Cabinet from passing the illegality of the concessions in the Tuxedo Affair?
#3: There is nothing racist or any need to be apologetic about demanding that the person representing you NEVER needs a social interpreter, whether or not you butcher both the English or the patois. This is a House Negro argument right there.
What shallow asinine thinkers and writers fail to grasp is the significance of the lousy job done by education administrators from Teachers’ College and the Minister and Ministry of education, that even after 30 plus years of independence the literacy rate is still that low.
Above: you are just another pie-hole!...what is it that you don't understand?!..when ST.LUCIANS go to the polls come elections,they will decide who their next Prime Minister will be; and that looks like a "proper functioning democracy", to me!
Family rule, monopoly and political power!
It never ceases to amaze me. The more things change, the more they remain the same. Saint Lucia seems doomed – in a legacy of seven times British and seven times French! In a land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king!
Not too long ago the educated class tried to redeem a people from bondage and dependency but, alas, the remnants of the colonial past continually threaten to reclaim the enslavement of Saint Lucians. The sequence of events leading up to the UWP convention that witnessed Allen Chastanet hijacking the political leadership of the party speaks wonders.
A loser by all indications based on his record in government and business – a representation of the 1% that trickled the land with a sense of entitlement – a repository of the monopoly that witnessed the takeover of GL Foods by Consolidated Foods Limited (CFL), to control the supply chain and control the minds of the people, now seeking to take over the financial wellbeing of the people and return citizens yet aging to a period of family control of Saint Lucia.
What is most telling is that this is done with the help of men and women who expect to rise from their self inflicted house enslavement and the bondage of their mental state. This is appalling. While others that have served in government seek to rise out of the jaws of bankruptcy and unemployment through the promise of a job for the betrayal of the hand that lifted them from obscurity to the ray of light.
The results of the UWP convention is a reflection of a losers party with a political leader that must not be permitted to win an electoral seat in this country. This has to be priority number one. God is great! Now more that ever the results of the Taiwan’s funds will have to be answered! The use of the Soufriere Town Council funds to campaign in 2011 and the attempted return of family rule in Saint Lucia must be addressed.
The writing is on the wall. If these are not serious enough, then what is? If this is not the remaking of the élite environment, preparing a return of Saint Lucia to family and colonial control of the 17th and 18th century, then will the bright minds please explain?
I thought we had worn this battle through independence. But today this psychological battle continues with the help of political and economic acolytes seeking to protect their interest!
Tori Fatal
http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/topstory-Letter%3A-Family-rule%2C-monopoly-and-political-power!-17031.html
"...hijacking the political leadship of the party"?...wow!..there goes another pie-hole.
Hear those hypocrites talk about racism. Yet, right under their very noses, has the ethnic group living in the Forestierre area, ever voted for someone who did not look like the majority of them?
They do not speak it. They are not open about it. Our jackasses and dummies as writers, cannot see that this ethnic group does not give a shit about voting for anyone else but their own. It does not matter that they are voting for even known jackass. They just act. It is a pattern. Racism or not?
Most of you here are living abroad, in a white-man's country and now spewing all this hate, Chastanet did not discriminate against, take it to the white guy who dissed you, not Allen.
I never thought it would come to that, but the paranoia among the Labour camp is maddening. They have dropped to the level of racism in their effort to smear a political opponent. What next guys? When you don't agree with someone you call them slaves, house niggers, etc. etc. since when St.lucia, since when???
Compton tanked the economy. He had no ideas for its revival. Our jackasses even after he failed with bananas the first time around, because of his self-interest regarding his banana farm holdings in Mahaut, still bought his crap hook, line and sinker about the resurrection of the banana industry. But who could blame him?
The majority of Saint Lucians even today, do not know about furthering their self-interest outside of political party membership.
Today, a delusional majority population labours under the confusion and forlorn hope that another khaki-coloured member of the 1% of the population that they adore as white, is going to look after the welfare, of this the remaining 99% that is ethnically different and of a much darker hue.
If you believe this then, you might well be one of those still convinced that the earth is flat and that there is no global warming.
Obama would not have won without the white vote.Since you stated that the writer used statistics to mislead,then in an effort not to mislead,you should have stated that without the white vote there would not have been a black president in the US.
NB.given your thinking,if you were asked if Obama would win the 2008 elections,you would have said NO.
Some of us who have a very low tolerance for crap would know by now to ask fools to comment on the deeper issues of life.
The hope on the horizon is the next generation, the "millennials" who don't seem to be buying the whole situation. As a group they demand teamwork and won't put up with corporate tyranny or double-talk, and if the PR smells too much like PR, they'll simply go elsewhere. They're networking with others of their demographic, and with older people who "get it," to create new ventures. Many of the resulting companies don't look anything like the mega corporations of the 20th century. They are headed by actual leaders, rather than managers calling themselves leaders.
Taken from: Tribal Leadership: Leveraging Natural Groups to Build a Thriving Organization by Dave Logan, John King, and Halee Fischer-Wright, Harper
Anonymous said...
George Bush, president of the United States mangled everything American English. Yet looking back we see that an influential father opened doors, and paved the way for alleged grade inflation in college etc.
Power and influence paved the way for a comical decision regarding the vice presidency. Go find me a vice president, he said. The order taken. The recipient presented himself as the best candidate.
There and then the question marks grew exponentially. How could you be so convinced that you needed a search when the answer was right in front of you?
So the world got 9/11. The world got the costly invasion of Irag in terms of lives lost with big business connection in the vice president position.
Open your eyes. Do you see any emerging pattern for us in that in Saint Lucia?
The world got the abuse in the Iraq prison. This paved the way for even a stronger Al Queda.
The quality of decision making says much more the qualifications of, or jobs held by an individual.
The involvement in the Tuxedo Villa Affairs speaks volumes about the honesty of the entire cabinet and ministers of finance and tourism.
The judgement of the Appellate Court of the OECS, where veracity was questioned, if Saint Lucians do not respect that by going ahead, giving a higher political profile to the main character involved, Saint Lucians will rue the day when this country awkwardly rewards such highly and legally documented dishonesty.
Some say that Saint Lucia is idiot country.
August 7, 2013 at 7:01 AM
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Wow! Food for thinking people.
You touched on an interesting topic here. However, the article is too superficial and your comparisons to U.S. politics required a more deeper understanding of African/American history than you have demonstrated. Your quote from Mandella. I am not 100 percent sure if it is correct. What you wrote is what he was supposed to have said in court. He was advised to say and said in court, instead: "I hope to live to see the day when Black people in South Africa will be....; But, I am prepared to die if I have to.. It was felt that the former statement was too defiant and would have pushed the court to give him the death penalty."
McDonald
It is good to see a debate about the future of St. Lucia. The fist question worth pondering is whether Allan is the best candidate to lead the UWP. We live in a free society right? Second can he win a seat and become an elected member of the House. If as party leader, his party wins the majority of seats at the next election he becomes Prime Minister.
Has the man demonstrated an ambition to change St. Lucia for the majority. Has he shown an understanding of the plight of the people he wants to govern. Has he the necessary Statesman-ship to command the respect of the international community. Is he a proven administrator, or coming from a business background or a business guru of respect in the region. Has he a vision and plan to lead St. Lucia to prosperity. I don't think so, and hope the voters send him back to ponder another career.
St.Lucians don't need those inflammatory comments from those expatriates. If they think that they can make a difference,they should pack their shit and return to the island; and stop being a bunch of pie-holes!!
Stop blaming John Comption! If the Germans were stuck on blamming Hitler for everything that went wrong in their country,they not be the economic powerhouse that they are today. Move on, its called MATURITY!!
If someone has vowed in his PREPARED maiden victory speech to follow John Compton, are you not dismayed by that? Is there any indication that this supports any change of direction regarding CORRECTING the host of problems and patterns that John Compton created? Are your eyes wide shut and your brains addle?
How can we move on when there is every indication that with that the unemployed Air Jamaica's marketing guru's failure to land himself a job, we are facing a John Compton clone.
Those of us at home are very much like the frog in the proverbial boiling pot. We fail to see that the water is gradually getting hotter and hotter around us, until they gradually boil us all to death.
Even Kenny has joined the supine bandwagon by begging Chastanet to give consumers a break. Can you believe that the PM is appealing to the private sector for a price reduction from a monopolist? Is he in a day dream?
I don't give a damn if Jesus Christ says the opposite. As long as I am paying taxes, it is my god dam right to demand anyone who wants to represent me as PM to make sure they look more like me.
This has nothing to do with being racist. It is just plain natural selfish self-interest.
Above: you are an Alarmist! Chastanet was not elected Prime Minister of St.Lucia.Come the general elections,the PEOPLE will decide.You pie-hole!!..what "host of of problems and patterns" are you referring to?....I guess you missed 'shit alley',punk!
Another feeble-minded cretin!!
"..natural selfish self-interest"?..there goes another feeble-minded cretin!!
The absolute drivel that is being paraded as journalism here is testimony of the depth of ignorance of the Saint Lucian population. Shallow-minded social mindless pigmies.
Tori Fatal,
Hi-jacking the political leadership !
Are you serious? It's either you are not familiar with what transpired or you do not know the meaning of HIJACKING.
THE results of the UWP convention is a reflection of a loser's party!
It would seem that you are highly educated,highly intelligent,a supreme intellectual,highly enlightened and results-oriented and the persons in the UWP are the opposite of you.
I have no doubt you posess none of the traits,attributes,achievements,characteristics listed above.
therefore,what qualifies you to make such statements?Of course,these are Idiotic statements.
If you believe the people need guidance and they have to be delivered from bondage,why don't you begin the process by forming your political party and work your way to the prime ministership.
You will soon realise that it is much,much easier to write non-sensical statements than winning any worthwhile contest.
This is not a racial issue for me personally. But I would never vote for a man who owns half of the businesses in my poor country. i have seen the prices at that supermarket vat or no vat, and i am appalled. even local foods with no vat cost a fortune. why would i contribute to the strangling of my nation for the benefit of the few by casting my vote in that direction? i would quicker vote for King with no business interest than this goon who will continue to gobble prime lands for his tourism interests and continue squeezing every cent from the malaway. chastanet wants political power to fully consolidate the economic power that his family got. that is all. and frankly i did not waste my precious time and money paying sky -high interest rates on ridiculously high student loans to get an education to be taken in by this tomfoolery.
@August 7, 2013 at 2:03 PM, you are spot on. Only ignorant bastards cannot detect the subtle difference between the self-interest vs the business take-over arguments made, and the simplistic House Nigger issues raised by these very childlike simple-minded idiots. These fools are ripe for another rape.
One might ask this question. What do products from the Grave Yard ghetto in Castries have to offer other than crap?
This election shows how deep is the malaise caused by the thousands of House Nigger and Uncle Toms that make up the Saint Lucian population. These people will turn a blind eye to the wrongdoings of politicians as long as those persons belong to their party and especially if the politician in question is of a khaki, or of a lighter skin colour. Once you are light-skinned you are right and you are bright. You can do no wrong.
John Compton got away with that crap for over 30 years. Now Chastanet who says he is following John Compton seems to have got away with this same old shit, with the Tuxedo Villa Scandal that played out the OECS Appellate Court. See how the House Niggers and Uncle Toms are streaming out of the woodwork in praise of Massa.
Above, what "crap" did John Comption "got away with"?...See,an intelligent person would be specific, you know:facts, events, dates..etc.But why should anyone be surprised by the noise coming from an infantile imagination! YOU CABIN BOY!!
When Saint Lucians love you, your shit does not smell stink. It gains greater clarity when said in the original patois.
Would questions related to 'It will be alright in the morning' when an election was STOLEN, be the product of infantile imagination? Would the sale of land to friends created by way of a loan paid by the people of Saint Lucia, the result of an infantile imagination? Are you that much of a dumb ass?
As a child I have had to deal with racist insults on a daily basis hurled at black pupils (me among them) by an Irish nun who was then the head teacher of the Gros Islet Infant school. She called us "pigs" and "niggers" and "savages" with impunity. I thus entered the world with the disturbing realization that I could be scorned and and persecuted for the colour of my skin.I realized very quickly that power and privilege were in the hands of the minority whites while the blacks remained wretchedly poor and marginalized and relegated a position of nonentity. Those were the sixties.Later becoming more conscious of the world outside St lucia and the racial politics of colonialism in Africa, Asia, and Latin America and the Caribbean, and how non -white people and in particular black people are relegated to positions of powerlessness and degradation. I have seen all my life that whenever whites possess the power in a racially diverse country that non whites, and blacks in particular, are subjected to abuse and degradation and ascribed to the bottom level of social stratification. That is so without exception to this very day. So there is nothing that you can do Mr Bishop to persuade me to repeat the mistakes of history and elect a white man to rule over me. We are still trying to crawl out of the gutters of the past and already you and others are trying to lead us back to trusting political power those people, trying to persuade that it is all good and dandy and that Chastanet would not first and foremost represent the interest of that privileged cream coloured minority who already possess the greater proportion of wealth in this country and who have in not-so-subtle ways frustrated the progress of the darker folk. Mr Bishop you are naive and irresponsible. Our grand children would never forgive us if we were to make the mistake of allowing ourselves to believe that race and class is irrelevant. A close look at our past and recent history and the sociological dynamics of the day suggests that it would be irresponsible, even criminal not to discuss the the racial implications of a Chastanet at the helm in this country.
Amen!
Mercifully, there are still, some very perceptive people belonging this land of the blind saint, Saint Lucy.
I see absolutely nothing wrong and have absolutely NO APOPOGIES to make to anyone, in DEMANDING that the person selected to be political leader of this country looks ... from now on ... like me and the REMAINING98 PERCENT of us. Anything else at our stage of political development and after thirty years of so-called independence, is an insult to our intelligence.
Moreover, the UWP had at least, one more academically qualified alternative, as in the person of Dr. Rigobert. They had a choice of A FEMALE POSSESSING A MORE DISCIPLINED MIND, A DOCTORATE, and already coming into the picture with another invaluable asset, a seat in the House of Assembly.
She was ignored!
If there is any leader being groomed for the prime minister position, that person must emerge from OUR COMMON EXPERIENCE -- THE common experience of the MAJORITY 98% black population.
She must prove FIRST AND FOREMOST that she can walk a mile in the shoes of OUR 98 percent black population. That she can understand OUR personal aspirations and OUR goals without first having someone interpret those for her.
Bitterly, world history DOCUMENTS repeatedly, THIS INCONTRAVERTIBLE FACT: that NOWHERE on planet earth has people with a greater racial affinity to whites, ever did POLITICALLY represent ... AND above all else ... the goals and aspirations of those of darker hue either as a minority or a majority population! The POLITICAL reality is: NOWHERE and NEVER!
It is an historical fact that we would perpetuate this demeaning of the MAJORITY 98 PERCENT BLACK POPULATION of this country, with this self-destructive and self- demeaning historical trend, if we, in our neck of the woods, continue to ignore this and not heighten our self-awareness, by fighting economic exploitation and relegation, and by preserving our political gains.
The struggle continues.
I guess, we as a nation, are having the first national discussion about race and politics in St. Lucia. It is an ugly one and quite unsavory, but that is part of the national discussion, nonetheless. Interestingly enough, 90 percent of the population in St. Lucia is African/West Indian, I don't like the term "Black" because that is an African/American terminology from the radical sixties in the States which has a completely different meaning in the US context.
Evidently, there is no racial divide in St. Lucia, no institutional racism, no Jim Crow laws, no segregation. It is simply a case of a St. Lucian of Caucasian persuasion trying to get the support of other St. Lucians, the majority of whom happens to be be African/West Indian to implement his vision for St. Lucia.
No matter how thin you slice or dice the issue, in the final analysis, it is the St. Lucians of African/West Indians descent who will decide. And I have no fear that they will decide correctly.If the candidate is the most qualified when the contest begins, he will get the vote, and if he is not he will not get the vote. So, St. Lucian, don't let your pressure go up and don't get stressed out over this storm in a teacup, the power to decide is still in our hands, Black, White or Indian.
McDonald
Chastanet is not black enough. Period.
He does not share our experiences, he having been born with a golden spoon stuck in almost all the orifices.
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