Saturday, December 22, 2012

Must we swallow every thing political

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Here is my advice to you guys upon retiring: form a consulting company to compete with every company in your fields of expertise; this is called capitalism.Don't expect any special favours because of your age. And remember,staying active has the bonus of longevity!

Anonymous said...

The trouble with the seniors and geriatric groups in our society is this: they have never paid attention to grooming our young to take their places in society, so as to continue their goodd work.

Where is the mentoring? Any evidence of this in the piece? I am still searching.

Clearly from the above, all we have is a litany of persons who did well largely for themselves, but failed to take care of prosterity, as a safeguard for what they built.

No one mentioned above sought to pass on the baton.

It follows that if the young cannot appreciate the reasons for some of the place-names in society, then it is the fault of the those who have passed.

Take for instance, we have changed nationally, the way we recognize the efforts and value of people, by giving them that recognition while they live.

There is little concern in modern-day Saint Lucia for those who have contributed POSITIVELY to society, but have died WITHOUT getting recognition during their lifetime.

There is no time for reflection in society that has gone to smoking pot as part of 'religious worship', just instant gratification.

We will let fall to ruin, anything that there is no appreciation for, be it a landmark, a person's sacrifice for the greater public good and so on.

We made our bed, so we must lie on it. The idiots took over a long time ago and the large-scale sale of our land resources to foreigners coupled with globalization means that skilled Saint Lucians who have made it abroad may NOT be retiring with their knowledge and skills in Saint Lucia. We will be all the poorer for this.

The chickens are coming home to roost.

Anonymous said...

The fruit never falls far from the tree. Like father like son. Birds of a feather flock together.

The father of the nation created us, so we are just like him. No mentoring, no vision, the old fellas have it all, no . . . Get it?

Anonymous said...

What a selfish and egotistical piece of writing. The tenor says it all.

If we cannot place Mr. Theobalds in our history or social life, it is because he built no social network or infrastructure.

He may have been the greatest engineer ever to have walked the face of this earth. But he left nothing behind.

He did not for example, create a society of Saint Lucian engineers. No foresight you say?

Such a society would have volunteered its services in colonial semi-independent Saint Lucia, to advising on technological matters and infrastructure and/or could have even agitated for them.

This most likely would have resulted in better use of scarce resources, placing the fledgling nation on a path to greater sustainability.

A legacy of all these names is that they left a developing country like ours without a reliable water supply system.

Volunteerism in Saint Lucia is a dirty word.

If I recall correctly, when someone from a group of university graduates offered the suggestion of forming an economic society (Then Mrs. Pat Charles was chairing the meeting.), not a single person in attendance, offered a comment. The room fell silent. You could hear a pin drop.

Our graduates do not give back to society. We have no exemplary pattern to fall back on coming from the age cohort of Mr. Brown et al.

The protected elitism was institutionalized with representatives in the Planning Department securing exhibitions and scholarships for the families of the elite, namely, the civil and public services.

Those people did not give back, and their gatekeepers in control in the Planning Department, ensured that children of certain families were denied entry into that elite group. They were denied certain scholarships.

The die has been cast. And we know who is responsible and who was accountable.

Son-of-man said...

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Pat,

What do expect from a mentally enslaved people who continue to worship a Caucasian a their God???

What do you expect from the so-called Negro who has been well mis-educated into Self-hatred.

I studied the calculus/ D.Q. and the physics but it was discarding that mental yoke of enslavement – that religion of White Supremacy – not the degree that created the stabilizing/static and dynamic/movement to attain freedom.

These shameless mis-educated Negroes who consider keeping company with Pirates like John Hawkins, by kissing the feet of the Queen of Pirates Elizabeth II, while hanging a crucifix of a dead Caucasian around their necks offer no solution to the Lazarus syndrome afflicting Lucians today.

I will see you at midnight mass on Micoud Street where the brain-damaged Negroes will assemble to worship the birthday of the White God given them by their enemy, Pirate Queen Elizabeth I, and the pirate John Hawkins.

God is White and you Negroes don't look like god! Why should we honor you? You are not Caucasian like Columbus! What is your problem? Is it your nose, skin, hair, lips?? you need to bleach your skin – you dumb Negro! Go to church and beg that Caucasian-man-god for pardon.

Anonymous said...

You looshans make me sick, really sick. It's no wonder the country as gone to hell!!!!

Government in and government out same sh.t. Writer in and writer out same crap. Blogger in and blogger in same sof pop. Why don;t we sell the country off to those who really want to see it prosper and the rest of can find another countyr to inhabit.

Anonymous said...

Pat Brown you are the biggest jack ass ever to walk the street of SLU

Anonymous said...

Oh no Pat are u saying u want to die with your boots on--go and relax your self in retirement like me and let the young professionals develop their skills with modern technologies.By the way cuthbert Phillips did not retire he was fired on national t.v by Sir John.If u are so concern you and all your retired friends and adopt some voluntary services before death comes sooner or later.That u will surely be rememembered for.

Son-of-man said...

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Pat:

What is extremely disturbing is the display of subservience to the so-called White man by the psychotic mis-educated Negroes who returns to the Island after training, only to regurgitate the instructions of the Colonial Masters. They attend an institution that continues to teach the “Natives” that the world is six thousand years old, and that if it were not for the disobedience of the woman Eve, who caused her husband to disobey God there would be no such things as hurricane Tomas, and the Pedophilia of the Catholic Church would not be a pandemic.

Not one of these mis-educated so-called Negroes possess the courage or self dignity to condemn the misogyny that is rooted and propagated in the Cathedral by the D.W. Square, where their wives and sons and daughters are taught to worship a statue of a Naked Caucasian man as their symbol of Perfection and Sovereignty.

So what do you expect, Pat?? I will see you at “La Mess Men-wit” when you kneel to ingest the blood of the human god in your cannibalistic ritual of eating the White man.

Anonymous said...

Very interesting comments....

Anonymous said...

Pat, you wrote a column for four years and didn't recieve a single comment?...unbelievable!. Now, google Abraham Maslow's 'Hierarchy of Needs'. Pay attention to 'Self-actualization'.

Anonymous said...

So here is a real socialist Labour dinasour who is waiting in the wings to pick up a contract, speaking the usual load of nonsense that he has done for the past 40 years.

So VAT is OK just not as much!

The reality is that the problem is not the revenue but the reckless spending, the accumulation of debt and a bloated civil service.

You could collect $3.6 billion in VAT and Kenny and Phillip will still find ways to waste it and show nothing at the end of the day for the people's money.

jokers, Kenny happy that he found one more way to screw the lucian taxpayer so just roll over and play dead.

Anonymous said...

Somebody please make Mr. Brown understand that William Peter has little relevance for Saint Lucians of today. He left no legacy that could have been built on.

Saint Lucians today are NOT standing on the shoulders of hardly any one of the names in the list in the newspaper article.

They are not known because they left no mark. Their offspring may have dominated the B Stream at Saint Mary's College after entering Form One, then to leave and ride in the fancy cars of the day.

If the 'mutual adulation society' of the day saw it fit to honour Willim Peter with a placename because he was one of the first to establish a business in his day, then, that's all well and good.

However, if his legacy is just the money he made for himself and his family, your admiration today smacks of a revolting elevation of Saint Lucia's predatory mercantile class of commission agents as worthy of emulation.

He appeared to have coached no one other than his family, or mentored nobody else regarding the establishment of a business in Saint Lucia.

That the mercantile community to all intents and purposes to this dat, have remained passively in the distribution/retail sector since colonial times, speaks volumes of the foresight and leadership in and of that group.

Today, we see that, other than our current prime minister's writing the legal framework of the CSME, our business class has little to offer to in the exchanges among the CSME Member States.

In fact, other than beer, it took a Guyanese to put the 'Made in Saint Lucia' label on the international market.

With smiling puss George Mallet in the Ministry of Trade, our business community has not progressed much from being merely glorified monopolistic commission agents, growing smaller and smaller as some brands, reaching their product life cycle, like PYE and Sansui, were withdrawn from the marketplace.

The research shows that some related businesses and product/business lines have even disappeared from the W. P. Boulevard.

GetProactive said...

Most of those mentioned, including yourself Pat Brown, were self serving and didn't give a crap about a legacy, except one of money for THEIR families. St Lucia is the craziest place on this planet. We denounce Christopher Columbus's alleged discovery of our island. Rename a public square which was originally named after him, yet we still celebrate NATIONAL DAY on December 13th. The same day he allegedly 'discovered' St Lucia. For me, this is the height of madness, stupidity and all things that I aspire NOT to be.

Anonymous said...

Enough comments for you,Pat?..... you must appreciate the Power of the Internet!

Anonymous said...

This Pat Brown reminds me of some of Saint Lucia's famous and dreaded top public servants in the persons of Martin Elwin, Johannes Leonce, George Girad (the dark one), Graham Louisy, Fitz Louisy,etc. They formed a network that was amost impregnable and it was used to mess up careers of so many ambitious and well-educated younger public servants. Example, as a victim, my own family name, place of birth, even the school I attended, among other things,were scrutinized. But life has a time of reckoning. .. when we are about to come face to face with our own mortality our memory tend to race ahead, then we cry for undeserved recognition. We seek praise that we don't deserve at all.

Anonymous said...

Pat, the Internet is a very egalitarian domain. We are waiting for a follow-up article from you.

Anonymous said...

What is the value is any assessment of a commentary on the VAT, when the commentator does not appear to have any greater understanding of the subject matter than the one person who wrote the original commentary in the first place? Is the blind leading the blind here?

Anonymous said...

Mr. Brown you have opened a can of worms.

What Mr. Brown does not seem to get through his head is that personal achievement is NOT the same thing as social capital.

The subtext of what he has written is succinctly this: "We have achieved, therefore honour us."

But was the achievement mainly and only personal?

If so, was not the recognition of MBEs, OBEs and knighthoods enough?

That appears to be all those in the list were working for, during the colonial period.

They were NOT nation builders!

No sacrifice. No national initiatives! No national movement! No national agenda!

They showed no leadership skills other than in their professions.

go to work. Get my pay. Get mentioned in the Queen's Birthday List.

Who opportunistically filled the void?

A Vincentian and citizen of the British Empire, named, John Comtion.

By virtue of his creation of independence, at best, in name only, and phony independence at worst, he layered on himself the title of naturalized citizen and first Prime Minister.

Where were the likes of you? He was NOT born here.

So all of the elite did not see the need to take on the mantle of leadership and groom the citizenry to become responsible Saint Lucians, so that they could build upon what you had built for yourselves.

All you people wanted was continued control of the group, and British honours conferred for retaining that control.

The well-known gatekeeper in the Planning Unit simply operated to perpetuate your class, to the exclusion of families not in the mercantile and Civil Saurus group.

Scholarships went unannounced by the Planning Unit, until the offsping of the members of that group could take advantage of them.

This means that when Mr. Compton, not knighted then, went through the charade of the independence talks, neither the elite nor the rest of the population were mentally prepared for independence.

Nation-building, nationhood, and independence and were not a part of the thinking of the Saint Lucian elite however wealthy or erudite. Never was.

The elite, as now still is, were still jockeying for MBEs, OBEs and knighthoods.

The rest of the country can go to hell as long as you and your families secured the safety of your public service jobs, and your paper recognitions, making it into the Queen's Birthday List.

Anonymous said...

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Catholic Priest Piero Corsi Blames 'Filthy Clothes and Cold Food' for Murder of Women
Uncompromising Christmas message lays blame for violence against women on the victims
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December 27, 2012 12:25 PM GMT

Father Piero Corsi of San Terenzio, La Spezia (YouTube)
Widespread outrage has been sparked by an Italian priest's Christmas message in which he claimed that women triggered men's violence by wearing "filthy clothes" and serving "cold suppers".


Father Piero Corsi put up a leaflet on his church's notice board in the small seaside town of San Terenzio near La Spezia in northwestern Italy, asserting that 118 women killed by men in Italy in 2012 was caused by the victims themselves.


"Is it possible that men have turn crazy all of a sudden? We don't believe so. The point is that more and more women provoke, fall into arrogance, believe [themselves] to be independent and exacerbate tensions," the leaflet read.


"Children are left outside alone, homes are dirty, meals are served cold or are fast-food-like, clothing is filthy," Corsi wrote. "They [women] trigger the worst instincts, leading to violence and sexual abuse. They should do a self-examination and think: did we ask for it?"
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A scan of the leaflet was posted online and triggered a wave of outrage. Corsi's Facebook page was flooded with angry comments and was shut down. 


Maria Carnieri, head of Telefono Rosa, an NGO fighting violence against women, called for the Pope and Italian Prime Minster Mario Monti to intervene.
La Spezia bishop Luigi Ernesto Palletti ordered the leaflet to be removed and distanced himself from Corsi. The priest's words, he said, were "contrary to the church's common feeling on the matter".


But Corsi told Radio Rai: "I don't know if you are a faggot or not but what do you feel when you see a naked woman? Is it not a woman's violence [sic] to unveil herself that way?"
In La Repubblica newspaper he said his words "had been exploited by liar journalists for whom jail wouldn't be an adequate sentence since they deserve the death penalty".
He later issued an apology and said he would quit the priesthood, due to the "pain and regret" he felt for the "controversy caused by his imprudent provocation", but then backtracked and denied both the apology and any intention of resigning.
Paletti suggested that Corsi takes a few days' holiday instead, La Repubblica reported.

Anonymous said...

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