Wow! Anonymous No 3. I really think you're mentally enslaved. You clearly have no idea what slavery caused to Africa and people of African decent. You clearly have an image of Africa as that of just "jungle" - that "jungle" that has been continuously sought after for mineral wealth, agriculture and inspiration. Your views seem more well placed in the 16th century but the reality is it epitomizes the views of many engrained to this present day.
Wow! Anonymous 3… You need to do some research… Truth be told Calixte it is 100% mental.... This is Anonymous 1 replying anyways… reason I ask this question… It’s a beautiful thing to know the history of St. Lucia but why would you highlight or celebrate a slave master’s heritage? I will end it here…peaCe.
I'm surprized you haven't renamed Casties "Obamatown" since you all seem to like HIM so much. Maybe if you did by the time we throw his dumb ass outta here he'd have somewhere to go.
#3 has a point, although slavey was evil ( nothing in the world can justify it)and looking at all the problems with Africa (hiv, famine, wars etc) we in the west might be the only ones left in the future.
@ Anonymous 6, Perhaps yowould like to consider that Africa has ben challenged by the pillage of conquering powers for quite some time and has continuously been seen as a place that can be stripped of resources, both human and natural. Can we blame Africa for Climate Change, can we blame it for having huge geographic impediments - the world's largest desert and second largest rain forest making growth their extremely challenging. We are continuously led to believe that Africa is cursed because of its people and that there is no hope there, and yet still only good can be brought to it through conquest, even to this day. This ideology is completely based on some racist belief that people who are black are inferior. Yet, this is the birthplace of humanity, the most linuisticially and culturally diverse places, and yet still it suffers from the ravages of colonialism and its false borders, false divisions, false perceptions and disingenuous intentions. I am not saying that the leaders and people of Africa must step up to the plate for themselves, but do not think that it is a level playing field and everyone is playing fair. There are many who want the plate all for themselves, and will make you think that it is their right, and that others do not belong. You made an interesting statement about we in "the west" being the future. What does the "West" really mean? The world conquered and/or controlled by those of European descent? Well, even today, we can see that Asia and other non-western nations are challenging that myopic world view.
I'm just being mischievous here: Colonel Christian de Castries, a direct descendant of the Marquis, was responsible for the utter defeat of the French at Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam in 1954. He set up seven forts at DBP (each named after one of his mistresses). These forts backed onto dense forest held by 50,000 Vietnamese troops and were surrounded on other sides by sheer mountainsides. As the Vietnamese General Giap said, he was in a rice bowl. Pounded from the mountaintops by artilllery and under continuous rifle fire, de Castries was compelled to surrender and 11,000 French troops were taken prisoner, of whom only 4,000 survived their ordeal. This was a monumental act of military stupidity and one of the worst defeats in French military history. It also marked the beginning of American involvement in Vietnam.
I think it would have been a better idea to get rid of all the stray dogs, the rats, garbage,vagrants and fix the side walks in Castries, instead of mounting monuments.
When will St Lucians stop killing St Lucuans? We lucians always like to check others problems and we fail to see ours, which is right here under our noses.
On the urging of the Venezuelans it wa Jnbaptiste Bideau and now Catires by the French. Bideau served venezuela and catries france. Is it any wonder we are so lost as a nation. History from the perspective of the colonialist. Where is Rupert Brandford in all of this? They have brainwashed us in not even knowing who are our heroes. what about the Brigands don't they have names? Why not a Burst of Martelly? I am interested in those black slaves right here in St.lucia who fought for the freedoms we enjoy today. Are you telling me there are none? Or are you saying that any knowledge of them were buried by the colonial powers.Those who bled for this country we don't recognise them. Is it because the colonial masters labelled them terrorists because they burned down plantations in their quest for our freedom? Where are the historians from Stlucia to tell about the true heroes for black freedom in stlucia? The French and the british are doing to us what the americans did to the native indians with their cowboys and indian movies portraying the indians as the bad guys and cowboys good guys. The mentals enslavement continue and we have an idiot commenting about going back to africa
To answer your question Anonymous 13, when will st. lucian stop killing st. lucian, they will not stop, why, because all black st. lucian are descendid from Africa, that is why most of Africa is DOOM and st. lucia is going the same way. Just because a cat is born in a dog kennel, dose not make it a dog it will still act like a cat, black African, black St.lucian the same thing .
Why did this discussion turned into a race card, when i see some incompetent men standing in the picture in jacket and tie, who neglected all the problems in castries, and all of a sudden spend our hard earned tax money on a useless project. That money could have gone into eradicating rats or stray dogs, fix the dangerous sidewalks etc in the city.
Anonymous #2 is most definitely a St Lucian white racist, probably a decendant of french slave masters, there are a few families still exploiting us right herein St Lucia and smile hypocritically in our faces as they pass us on the streets. They can be known by their french surnames. Who else would be so angry at us St Lucians for labelling Marquis de Castries a slave owner? Observe carefully how anonymous #2 stated "good job that he had slaves if not you might still be in the jungle of Africa, if you dont agree with me you can always go back to your homeland." Black people don't speak this way about Africa. He/she also has disdain for Obama.
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Beautiful moment...how many slaves did he own though?
You have to spoil everything, don't you?
good job that he had slaves, if not you might still be in the jungle of Africa, if you dont agree with me you can always go back to your homeland.
Wow! Anonymous No 3. I really think you're mentally enslaved. You clearly have no idea what slavery caused to Africa and people of African decent. You clearly have an image of Africa as that of just "jungle" - that "jungle" that has been continuously sought after for mineral wealth, agriculture and inspiration. Your views seem more well placed in the 16th century but the reality is it epitomizes the views of many engrained to this present day.
Wow! Anonymous 3… You need to do some research… Truth be told Calixte it is 100% mental....
This is Anonymous 1 replying anyways… reason I ask this question… It’s a beautiful thing to know the history of St. Lucia but why would you highlight or celebrate a slave master’s heritage? I will end it here…peaCe.
I'm surprized you haven't renamed Casties "Obamatown" since you all seem to like HIM so much. Maybe if you did by the time we throw his dumb ass outta here he'd have somewhere to go.
#3 has a point, although slavey was evil ( nothing in the world can justify it)and looking at all the problems with Africa (hiv, famine, wars etc) we in the west might be the only ones left in the future.
@ Anonymous 6, Perhaps yowould like to consider that Africa has ben challenged by the pillage of conquering powers for quite some time and has continuously been seen as a place that can be stripped of resources, both human and natural. Can we blame Africa for Climate Change, can we blame it for having huge geographic impediments - the world's largest desert and second largest rain forest making growth their extremely challenging. We are continuously led to believe that Africa is cursed because of its people and that there is no hope there, and yet still only good can be brought to it through conquest, even to this day. This ideology is completely based on some racist belief that people who are black are inferior. Yet, this is the birthplace of humanity, the most linuisticially and culturally diverse places, and yet still it suffers from the ravages of colonialism and its false borders, false divisions, false perceptions and disingenuous intentions. I am not saying that the leaders and people of Africa must step up to the plate for themselves, but do not think that it is a level playing field and everyone is playing fair. There are many who want the plate all for themselves, and will make you think that it is their right, and that others do not belong. You made an interesting statement about we in "the west" being the future. What does the "West" really mean? The world conquered and/or controlled by those of European descent? Well, even today, we can see that Asia and other non-western nations are challenging that myopic world view.
Our City named after a slave master? How ever are we going to defeat this scourge of mental slavery when we live in it!?
I'm just being mischievous here: Colonel Christian de Castries, a direct descendant of the Marquis, was responsible for the utter defeat of the French at Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam in 1954. He set up seven forts at DBP (each named after one of his mistresses). These forts backed onto dense forest held by 50,000 Vietnamese troops and were surrounded on other sides by sheer mountainsides. As the Vietnamese General Giap said, he was in a rice bowl. Pounded from the mountaintops by artilllery and under continuous rifle fire, de Castries was compelled to surrender and 11,000 French troops were taken prisoner, of whom only 4,000 survived their ordeal. This was a monumental act of military stupidity and one of the worst defeats in French military history.
It also marked the beginning of American involvement in Vietnam.
I think it would have been a better idea to get rid of all the stray dogs, the rats, garbage,vagrants and fix the side walks in Castries, instead of mounting monuments.
So when will Africans stop killing Africans?
When will St Lucians stop killing St Lucuans? We lucians always like to check others problems and we fail to see ours, which is right here under our noses.
Go get a life, will you?
The fact of the matter is that any one of you can get on a plane and go to Africa to live.
I don't see anyone rushing to Hewanorra.
Yeah, give them a one-way ticket.
How will that statue benefit us in St Lucia?
Stop talking none sense about going to africa, that talk will not benefit us.
On the urging of the Venezuelans it wa Jnbaptiste Bideau and now Catires by the French. Bideau served venezuela and catries france. Is it any wonder we are so lost as a nation. History from the perspective of the colonialist. Where is Rupert Brandford in all of this? They have brainwashed us in not even knowing who are our heroes. what about the Brigands don't they have names? Why not a Burst of Martelly? I am interested in those black slaves right here in St.lucia who fought for the freedoms we enjoy today. Are you telling me there are none? Or are you saying that any knowledge of them were buried by the colonial powers.Those who bled for this country we don't recognise them. Is it because the colonial masters labelled them terrorists because they burned down plantations in their quest for our freedom? Where are the historians from Stlucia to tell about the true heroes for black freedom in stlucia? The French and the british are doing to us what the americans did to the native indians with their cowboys and indian movies portraying the indians as the bad guys and cowboys good guys. The mentals enslavement continue and we have an idiot commenting about going back to africa
So why don't you do something about it and stop bitching?
To answer your question Anonymous 13, when will st. lucian stop killing st. lucian, they will not stop, why, because all black st. lucian are descendid from Africa, that is why most of Africa is DOOM and st. lucia is going the same way.
Just because a cat is born in a dog kennel, dose not make it a dog
it will still act like a cat, black African, black St.lucian the same thing .
funny...lol
Then why whites kill whites?
We're all the same, animals...blacks, whites, yellows etc...just high class animals.
Why did this discussion turned into a race card, when i see some incompetent men standing in the picture in jacket and tie, who neglected all the problems in castries, and all of a sudden spend our hard earned tax money on a useless project. That money could have gone into eradicating rats or stray dogs, fix the dangerous sidewalks etc in the city.
So who paid for it?
It does not matter who paid for it, the fact is, the money could have put to better use.
Well, if it's not taxpayers' money then you have nothing to worry about.
Nobody have said who paid for it.
It was not paid for the bust was ripped off the man's chest. LMAO
funny...lol
Anonymous #2 is most definitely a St Lucian white racist, probably a decendant of french slave masters, there are a few families still exploiting us right herein St Lucia and smile hypocritically in our faces as they pass us on the streets. They can be known by their french surnames. Who else would be so angry at us St Lucians for labelling Marquis de Castries a slave owner? Observe carefully how anonymous #2 stated "good job that he had slaves if not you might still be in the jungle of Africa, if you dont agree with me you can always go back to your homeland." Black people don't speak this way about Africa. He/she also has disdain for Obama.
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