At least some honest individuals have surfaced. Though sad but when listening to talk shows yesterday the impression I got was that the police killed a helpless man who was laying on the street. My condolences never the less. Time for the option of rubber bullets
This is a very unfortunate situation and a significant portion of the blame must be attributed to the trigger-happy policeman.
There is a patent lack of respect for human life among a certain section of the St. Lucia police force. I am all for the police using force when the situation warrants it but to shoot people willy nilly is turning St. Lucia to a caribbean version of the "Wild Wild West".
One get a sense that some of these police officers operate under the assumption - have gun will use it.
i understand that the police officers have to defend themselves and the public but to shot and innocent unarmed man they need to pay. those officers are under the impression that because they have possession of a firearm they can use it however they please until they are brought to trial for unneccessay force it will continue to happen. we need to start trying them for murder or at least manslaughter.
Zeigy, you again? St lucia have trained their policemen for a very long time, and many good policemen come out of that training. Zeigy, it does not matter where you train people, Monroe, Conroe or Doroe there will always be same bad ones coming out of the group. If we have to go on what you are saying, we will believe U.S.A. do not train their army and policemen well, because so many of them turn out to be bad. As a matter of fact, no training will give one common sense, because it is only common sense that one do not shot a helpless person, shooting should be the last resort. o.k. ZEIGY. Do a little thinking before you write.
well i am hoping that the instructors at the training school are taking all those incidents into consideration and coming up with better ways to handling situation such as this one,for one police officer said that the training he got never had anything to do with shooting any suspect in leg,so i am guessing that they are being taught shot to kill
Which policeman that told you that? You as somebody who is not trained, where would you shoot? That only goes to show you that, you do not have to be trained to know the value of human life. You cannot blame any instructor for a careless policeman. Common sense is the key.
That's another example why police officers need pepper spray and taser guns. Which police force in th year 2009 don't have pepper spray or taser guns? only in St. Lucia. SMH.
^ I was thinking about spending some time in the US but since I heard four officers were gunned down in a coffee shop I think I will feel safer in St. Lucia.
While I would like to agree with most of the comments but there is no safe place on the body to get shot. If you do the research you will find that being shot in the leg has the highest probability of death as several of the body's main arteries are located in the leg and many persons have died from gunshot wounds in the leg. A better solution would be to arm the police with rubber bullets along with live armunition.
The person who spoke about staying in florida because it is safer is making a big mistake, and is not telling the truth. I am living in florida and i will tell you, crime happens everywhere and every day in Florida. People are being shot, killed, children and even grown people are being kidnapped and killed. People, shops, stores, and banks are being held up at gun point and robbed mostly everyday. there is a lot of hit and ran accidents where people are sometimes killed. etc, etc. So Florida is no way safer than St Lucia, people just has to be at the right place at the right time and mind their own affairs. let us be honest people. Crime could happen anywhere, at anytime.
Somebody spoke about rubber bullets and taser guns, i agree that the policemen should be armed with these but there was also examples where these things have caused deaths in the past. The main thing here is self control by the officers and to work with a level head, i believe that is the level of training they need.
I'm the one staying in florida. I am never affected by crime here at home, ever. It's safe. The writer who states that there is so much crime in Florida probobly lives in a bad neighborhood.
My point was that YOUR police gunned down an old man. OUR police were gunned down by a crazy man 3000 miles from where I live. St. Lucians are wonderful people but you had better get crime under control or you'll end up like Jamaica with a reputation for crime. Furthermore I read this paper online and all I see is an increase in crime. What would you think?? I meant no disrespect and my comment could have been worded more appropriatly but I'm trying to let you know that 10 years ago none of this happened in St. Lucia and now all I read is crime, crime, crime. I apologise if I offended you Zeigy.
Expectedly everyone thinks the police must do a better job showing better control however we as a society must do our part. I once saw an individual telling one officer who came to arrest him that he cannot arrest him and he should go call a senior officer and come back he's waiting for him shows the level of respect for the law in this nation. We as a society must do our part and part ways with this hypocrit ways. We see all that go wrong but still stay tight lipped. Our friends committ crimes and we hide them and lie for them. Is this the help we offer to the police?
Welcome to St.Lucia where our police officers only kill the innocent and not the criminals.A set of carwords i say, these pigs need to pay.Blame the UWP they said they will solve the crime on the island.
Police officers are rethinking their use of stun guns, after Taser International advised them to stop aiming at the chest because of a slight risk of cardiac arrest when the electrified darts hit there.
The company has advised the police to instead aim for the belly or the back of the legs.
Taser International has always assured police officers that the stun gun can never cause problems with the heart, no matter how many times it is used on someone.
Now the company says, just to be safe — from a liability point of view — police should avoid firing at the chest.
"The entire playing field has been altered," said Tony Simioni, president of the Edmonton Police Association.
He said that even before this recent policy, some police officers had begun leaving their Taser in their locker "based on the level of scrutiny, just the overall perception that this Taser may be more trouble than it is worth."
"Now there's an increasing tendency not to use the Taser at all because the deployment instructions are unrealistic, in their view," Simioni said.
Mike Sutherland, president of the Winnipeg Police Association, said the directive now puts his members at risk if they fire the stun gun and it hits the chest.
"I think there's a possibility that we may see an increase — especially given the controversy surrounding the Taser — that our members dragged into court cases where liability will become an issue," Sutherland said.
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HOW SAD
At least some honest individuals have surfaced. Though sad but when listening to talk shows yesterday the impression I got was that the police killed a helpless man who was laying on the street. My condolences never the less. Time for the option of rubber bullets
This is a very unfortunate situation and a significant portion of the blame must be attributed to the trigger-happy policeman.
There is a patent lack of respect for human life among a certain section of the St. Lucia police force. I am all for the police using force when the situation warrants it but to shoot people willy nilly is turning St. Lucia to a caribbean version of the "Wild Wild West".
One get a sense that some of these police officers operate under the assumption - have gun will use it.
The officer acted as best as his training could make him.
Clearly, Monroe College could help our nation in this area, they have law enforcement programmes.
i understand that the police officers have to defend themselves and the public but to shot and innocent unarmed man they need to pay. those officers are under the impression that because they have possession of a firearm they can use it however they please until they are brought to trial for unneccessay force it will continue to happen. we need to start trying them for murder or at least manslaughter.
Zeigy, you again? St lucia have trained their policemen for a very long time, and many good policemen come out of that training. Zeigy, it does not matter where you train people, Monroe, Conroe or Doroe there will always be same bad ones coming out of the group. If we have to go on what you are saying, we will believe U.S.A. do not train their army and policemen well, because so many of them turn out to be bad. As a matter of fact, no training will give one common sense, because it is only common sense that one do not shot a helpless person, shooting should be the last resort. o.k. ZEIGY. Do a little thinking before you write.
well i am hoping that the instructors at the training school are taking all those incidents into consideration and coming up with better ways to handling situation such as this one,for one police officer said that the training he got never had anything to do with shooting any suspect in leg,so i am guessing that they are being taught shot to kill
Which policeman that told you that? You as somebody who is not trained, where would you shoot? That only goes to show you that, you do not have to be trained to know the value of human life. You cannot blame any instructor for a careless policeman. Common sense is the key.
That's another example why police officers need pepper spray and taser guns. Which police force in th year 2009 don't have pepper spray or taser guns? only in St. Lucia. SMH.
We were thinking of getting married in St. Lucia next year but I think I'd feel safer in Florida.
^ I was thinking about spending some time in the US but since I heard four officers were gunned down in a coffee shop I think I will feel safer in St. Lucia.
While I would like to agree with most of the comments but there is no safe place on the body to get shot. If you do the research you will find that being shot in the leg has the highest probability of death as several of the body's main arteries are located in the leg and many persons have died from gunshot wounds in the leg. A better solution would be to arm the police with rubber bullets along with live armunition.
Everybody in America has a gun, some has a few.
The person who spoke about staying in florida because it is safer is making a big mistake, and is not telling the truth. I am living in florida and i will tell you, crime happens everywhere and every day in Florida. People are being shot, killed, children and even grown people are being kidnapped and killed. People, shops, stores, and banks are being held up at gun point and robbed mostly everyday. there is a lot of hit and ran accidents where people are sometimes killed. etc, etc. So Florida is no way safer than St Lucia, people just has to be at the right place at the right time and mind their own affairs. let us be honest people. Crime could happen anywhere, at anytime.
Somebody spoke about rubber bullets and taser guns, i agree that the policemen should be armed with these but there was also examples where these things have caused deaths in the past. The main thing here is self control by the officers and to work with a level head, i believe that is the level of training they need.
I'm the one staying in florida. I am never affected by crime here at home, ever. It's safe. The writer who states that there is so much crime in Florida probobly lives in a bad neighborhood.
My point was that YOUR police gunned down an old man. OUR police were gunned down by a crazy man 3000 miles from where I live. St. Lucians are wonderful people but you had better get crime under control or you'll end up like Jamaica with a reputation for crime. Furthermore I read this paper online and all I see is an increase in crime. What would you think?? I meant no disrespect and my comment could have been worded more appropriatly but I'm trying to let you know that 10 years ago none of this happened in St. Lucia and now all I read is crime, crime, crime. I apologise if I offended you Zeigy.
St. Lucia's problems can't be solved by man. This island must turn to God.
Why would you want to come to St.Lucia when Florida is warm year round? I think you just wanted to beat down on St.Lucia.
Expectedly everyone thinks the police must do a better job showing better control however we as a society must do our part. I once saw an individual telling one officer who came to arrest him that he cannot arrest him and he should go call a senior officer and come back he's waiting for him shows the level of respect for the law in this nation. We as a society must do our part and part ways with this hypocrit ways. We see all that go wrong but still stay tight lipped. Our friends committ crimes and we hide them and lie for them. Is this the help we offer to the police?
No one needs to beat down St. Lucia. Youre doing a fine job by yourselves.
1.Shoot an innocent old man
2.bring a knife to a football match
3.rob tourists because they thought it was safe to walk alone
Read your own newspaper!!!!
Unless of course you are a police officer, then try to find someone to read it to you stupid ass.
In America they bring automatic rifles to political events, especially where your President is speaking....sick I say.
WRONG! No rifles at political events. Sorry but tou don't know what youre talking about.
I live in Canada and I know every thing that happens south of us, obviously you don't watch the news.
Welcome to St.Lucia where our police officers only kill the innocent and not the criminals.A set of carwords i say, these pigs need to pay.Blame the UWP they said they will solve the crime on the island.
If that's the case then I suggest you try to be a criminal, you will see how fast a bullet will go thru your behind.
What ever happened to maiming as a first action before shooting? And what about the rights of the elderly?
And how about the rights of citizens to have no vagrant harass them everyday in Castries?
From CBC News
Police hedge on Taser use after new rules
Last Updated: Monday, December 7, 2009
Police officers are rethinking their use of stun guns, after Taser International advised them to stop aiming at the chest because of a slight risk of cardiac arrest when the electrified darts hit there.
The company has advised the police to instead aim for the belly or the back of the legs.
Taser International has always assured police officers that the stun gun can never cause problems with the heart, no matter how many times it is used on someone.
Now the company says, just to be safe — from a liability point of view — police should avoid firing at the chest.
"The entire playing field has been altered," said Tony Simioni, president of the Edmonton Police Association.
He said that even before this recent policy, some police officers had begun leaving their Taser in their locker "based on the level of scrutiny, just the overall perception that this Taser may be more trouble than it is worth."
"Now there's an increasing tendency not to use the Taser at all because the deployment instructions are unrealistic, in their view," Simioni said.
Mike Sutherland, president of the Winnipeg Police Association, said the directive now puts his members at risk if they fire the stun gun and it hits the chest.
"I think there's a possibility that we may see an increase — especially given the controversy surrounding the Taser — that our members dragged into court cases where liability will become an issue," Sutherland said.
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