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Tuesday, March 22, 2011
Fuel Concessions A Dangerous Move
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There should be no fuel concessions to the bus drivers. However if some of the bus drivers want to increase their fares then they should be allowed to do so. If others want to keep the current price then they can do so. They just need to have their price list clearly indicated on the bus for the traveling public.
Err: Concessions are one handout you never want to introduce to the St. Lucian community for fear of it's 'bobolis-tic' inclination. In our history, certain (current) ministers have taken scrupulous advantages of this kind of handout before they were in government and also while in government....so you think the bus drivers are the only ones to watch? Madness!!! Keep concessions ABSOLUTELY SEALED.
Well ... what measures have those mendicant-minded Looshan bus people adopted or put in place before they asked for concessions? Are they supposed to simply pass on every cost increase that their operations generate?
To whom do consumers pass the other cost increases they face on a daily basis? I am sure that there are operating inefficiencies, if corrected, can balance out or help to balance out the recent price increase in fuel. For example, what purchases have they pooled together to get a price reduction in operating cost? Must consumers always be paying these ransoms for the creation of these rapacious people's fortunes?
It is high time that the mini bus drivers realise that they are running a business and therefore it is unacceptable to request concessions from government. The mini bus drivers must learn to stash their profits away when fuel price decreases which it will as they had demanded the pass through mechanism. They must learn to accept the reality of market and stop manipulating it for them to run four women. The last rebate given to them was not used to erect decent Bus stands with facilities for them to operate from. It is time we as a people learn that governments can not bail us from the fluctuating of prices in the market place. We must tighten our belts and make simple small adjustments such as efficiencies savings on operating cost to increase our profits and disposable income.
A national transportation system will face an entirely different cost structure? Hell no! It might even be greater with perhaps unionization. Whoever runs the service, private or public sector, the cost inefficiencies must be the target for eventual profitability. There must be an element of subsidy for those who are going to school.
I hope that when the people see the light, they will eventually chose an LPM government. I feel very sure that these fellas with their years of overseas experience with their own businesses and working experience, know a thing or two about giving us a national transportation service.
Yes, the minibus system must be run as a business.
The problem with that model is that unlike most other sectors which are free to price their output according to their inputs and other operating cost, the fares are fixed by the government.
Fuel prices increase monday morning, Super J adjust their prices by midday, fishermen increase the retail price of fish by 4:00 pm.
Bus operators whose prime input is fuel must just swallow the increase?
Talking about inefficiencies. It is accepted that equivalent diesel powered buses are more efficient than their gasoline counterparts.
What does the government do to encourage movement to diesel?
There is good reason why the price of diesel is normally higher than that for gas. It has to do with the concerns for people and the environment.
If a transportation fleet is designed to burn only diesel fuel, and it is large, the negative impact on air quality will be huge. All during their hours of operation, those transportation units will be spewing out huge amounts of pollutants. This is bound to show up in impaired health conditions for the population at large. But it would be more so for the elderly and the very young. Both groups at the ends of the population spectrum would have symptoms of respiratory health problems among other things. Can we afford to let this group of so-called business persons ruin the health of the population while they make their fortunes with guaranteed incomes through on the backs of, or in exchange for the good health of a captive consumer group?
A well tuned modern diesel engine spews out no more pollutants than a gasoline engine.
In any event, why are the Customs tariffs lower on diesel powered vehicles than gasoline engines?
I believe it was to induce people to move in that direction and help lower the country's fuel import bill as a whole.
That strategy was bolstered by always keeping the price of diesel lower than gasoline which also assisted in lower cost of goods and capital works as diesel is the generally the fuel of construction as well as trade.
The cost of living as it is, and people will pay the extra$ to get well-tuned diesel engines on the road. He, he, hee! Man you make me laugh. Somehow, St. Lucians are saints walking around with halos over their heads! You must be quite mad. You just left the mad house, wee?
Hey man! Losshans must be able to think as they are NOT inspired or fortified by a chicken leg and rum alone. Take it from me, it is time to stop thinking like the politicians want us to think.
If an argument is made against something, it does not necessarily mean that an argument is being made for its opposite or the most available substitute.
If for example, someone is criticising a particular party is does not mean that they want that altogether. They might only be concerned with trying to get a better party. Hey you argue like someone driven to talk after imbibing half bottle of 100 percent proof!
You my friend are the one arguing with emotion rather than substance.
It is your kind of argument that is failing to inspire our people.
You are the one that countered that people would not be willing to spend the extra to tune up their diesel engines.
I was simply pointing out that in a tough economy, it is not only diesel engines but ALL engines go without the requisite servicing.
Ironically, it is particularly important to tune up in tough times so as to get the most mileage out of every drop of expensive fuel.
You have failed to define "normal" in your premise that diesel is "normally" more expensive than gas.
I clearly indicated that that was not the case in St. Lucia over the last 12 years at least until the current administration started the fuel price escalations.
You have played blind and mute to that as well as the Customs tariffs on diesel powered vehicles.
15 comments:
There should be no fuel concessions to the bus drivers. However if some of the bus drivers want to increase their fares then they should be allowed to do so. If others want to keep the current price then they can do so. They just need to have their price list clearly indicated on the bus for the traveling public.
Jeff..you need to get it right, listen up,
Gas prices will undercut much of the benefits of the moderate economic growth thus far 0.07%
Likewise there is nothing worse for any economy than a significant increase in energy prices.
Also, global energy price and comsumption will increase significantly...all of the above are economic facts...
Therefore what is you government policy,ideas and solution to such.
Then we can talk..i have a few ...
Err:
Concessions are one handout you never want to introduce to the St. Lucian community for fear of it's 'bobolis-tic' inclination. In our history, certain (current) ministers have taken scrupulous advantages of this kind of handout before they were in government and also while in government....so you think the bus drivers are the only ones to watch? Madness!!! Keep concessions ABSOLUTELY SEALED.
Well ... what measures have those mendicant-minded Looshan bus people adopted or put in place before they asked for concessions? Are they supposed to simply pass on every cost increase that their operations generate?
To whom do consumers pass the other cost increases they face on a daily basis? I am sure that there are operating inefficiencies, if corrected, can balance out or help to balance out the recent price increase in fuel. For example, what purchases have they pooled together to get a price reduction in operating cost? Must consumers always be paying these ransoms for the creation of these rapacious people's fortunes?
It is high time that the mini bus drivers realise that they are running a business and therefore it is unacceptable to request concessions from government. The mini bus drivers must learn to stash their profits away when fuel price decreases which it will as they had demanded the pass through mechanism. They must learn to accept the reality of market and stop manipulating it for them to run four women.
The last rebate given to them was not used to erect decent Bus stands with facilities for them to operate from. It is time we as a people learn that governments can not bail us from the fluctuating of prices in the market place. We must tighten our belts and make simple small adjustments such as efficiencies savings on operating cost to increase our profits and disposable income.
St.Lucia has a private bus enterprise we need a national transportation system.
A national transportation system will face an entirely different cost structure? Hell no! It might even be greater with perhaps unionization. Whoever runs the service, private or public sector, the cost inefficiencies must be the target for eventual profitability. There must be an element of subsidy for those who are going to school.
I hope that when the people see the light, they will eventually chose an LPM government. I feel very sure that these fellas with their years of overseas experience with their own businesses and working experience, know a thing or two about giving us a national transportation service.
Yes, the minibus system must be run as a business.
The problem with that model is that unlike most other sectors which are free to price their output according to their inputs and other operating cost, the fares are fixed by the government.
Fuel prices increase monday morning, Super J adjust their prices by midday, fishermen increase the retail price of fish by 4:00 pm.
Bus operators whose prime input is fuel must just swallow the increase?
Talking about inefficiencies. It is accepted that equivalent diesel powered buses are more efficient than their gasoline counterparts.
What does the government do to encourage movement to diesel?
Price diesel significantly higher than gasoline!
jeff are you aware that the goverment did promise to review the bus fares after three years and guess what, the review period is up.
There is good reason why the price of diesel is normally higher than that for gas. It has to do with the concerns for people and the environment.
If a transportation fleet is designed to burn only diesel fuel, and it is large, the negative impact on air quality will be huge. All during their hours of operation, those transportation units will be spewing out huge amounts of pollutants. This is bound to show up in impaired health conditions for the population at large. But it would be more so for the elderly and the very young. Both groups at the ends of the population spectrum would have symptoms of respiratory health problems among other things. Can we afford to let this group of so-called business persons ruin the health of the population while they make their fortunes with guaranteed incomes through on the backs of, or in exchange for the good health of a captive consumer group?
Good cause Jeff ;)
That is an environmental cop out.
A well tuned modern diesel engine spews out no more pollutants than a gasoline engine.
In any event, why are the Customs tariffs lower on diesel powered vehicles than gasoline engines?
I believe it was to induce people to move in that direction and help lower the country's fuel import bill as a whole.
That strategy was bolstered by always keeping the price of diesel lower than gasoline which also assisted in lower cost of goods and capital works as diesel is the generally the fuel of construction as well as trade.
The cost of living as it is, and people will pay the extra$ to get well-tuned diesel engines on the road. He, he, hee! Man you make me laugh. Somehow, St. Lucians are saints walking around with halos over their heads! You must be quite mad. You just left the mad house, wee?
Talking about halo, I guess you see halos around gasoline engines as far as pollution is concerned?
I may be from the mad house but you definitely need to have your sight checked.
Guess you've never driven behind a gasoline engine minibus and can't see through the cloud of smoke it is emitting
Hey man! Losshans must be able to think as they are NOT inspired or fortified by a chicken leg and rum alone. Take it from me, it is time to stop thinking like the politicians want us to think.
If an argument is made against something, it does not necessarily mean that an argument is being made for its opposite or the most available substitute.
If for example, someone is criticising a particular party is does not mean that they want that altogether. They might only be concerned with trying to get a better party. Hey you argue like someone driven to talk after imbibing half bottle of 100 percent proof!
You my friend are the one arguing with emotion rather than substance.
It is your kind of argument that is failing to inspire our people.
You are the one that countered that people would not be willing to spend the extra to tune up their diesel engines.
I was simply pointing out that in a tough economy, it is not only diesel engines but ALL engines go without the requisite servicing.
Ironically, it is particularly important to tune up in tough times so as to get the most mileage out of every drop of expensive fuel.
You have failed to define "normal" in your premise that diesel is "normally" more expensive than gas.
I clearly indicated that that was not the case in St. Lucia over the last 12 years at least until the current administration started the fuel price escalations.
You have played blind and mute to that as well as the Customs tariffs on diesel powered vehicles.
Now who's had too much to drink?
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