Thursday, April 18, 2013

0% WITH CONDITIONS

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ha! Who's the hero now, huh? No one realized that there were hidden dollar amounts attached to the conditions offered to the Police Association. That, in addition to the overall 4% increase, police officers were also entitled to special allowances.

Forgoing the conditions proposed by the CSA in exchange for a minuscule increase would have been ill-advised. I expect the government to follow suit--curtail the wastage; trim the fat.

Anonymous said...

you need to get your facts straight before you say there were hidden amounts for police. that has been in the public domain from the inception that in addition to the 4%, there were allowances. stop being ridiculous

Anonymous said...

What's ridiculous is hailing people as heroes for accepting 4%--and PUTTING COUNTRY BEFORE SELF--but not underscoring the fact that the accompanying conditions included dollar amounts that would further drain the public purse. I'm not saying they were unwarranted, it's just that this FACT was obviously overlooked by an adoring public.

Anonymous said...

What a joke! After three weeks of strike action and more weeks of no productivity where the country lost millions, we come down to this? What a freaking joke! Only in St. Lucia.

Anonymous said...

Even the verbiage of Ms Issacs is highly suspect.

Conditions suggest distributive bargaining most suitable for a one-time one-off agreement.

Who with any realism and a sound knowledge of labour relations begins negotiations seeking a collective bargaining agreement, by laying down "conditions"?

These CSA people sound all wet behind the ears, Lord!

Are these people living on the same planet with the rest of us, or are they in idiot country?

Anonymous said...

I think/know we are in idiot country, above. And I totally agree with your viewpoints.

Anonymous said...

No complaints from me. As a taxpayer, I'm mostly impacted by the outcome of the negotiations. Their refusal to accept the increase means we're no longer saddled with that potential debt burden. The PM has always maintained that we never had the money anyway. Cheers to the zero!

Anonymous said...

CSA has turned out to be just a reckless group of technical incompetents.

Neither the government nor the CSA did the basic homework and research on costs for the various Civil Service classifications and pay grades.

Positions adopted were not data based.

A hard data based approached would have given a clearer and more accurate picture of the impact of different (with "What if" scenarios) rates of increase would have on the pay grades.

More importantly, this would have given a more accurate picture how many people would be in which grade each year, and the associated costs in terms of earnings and labour cost (pre-tax and post-tax) during the anticipated life of the agreement.

Anonymous said...

What a lot of do-nothings lazy easy going, lucky to have a job bunch, having no idea of the harm done to the nation. Some go about their business honourably like the medical nurses and truly deserve better pay, but there are some who should be shown the exit door. Time to trim the size of the so called civil sevants, and the too many political appointments at the top on contracts.

Anonymous said...

Is she a very conflicted person, or even a very scared person by wearing what appears to be her tribal colours (non-verbal communication) here in the picture in this story?

Anonymous said...

I could care less about personalities and clothing choice. What's more important is how we're going to dig ourselves out of this debt ditch; further compounded by public sector wage hikes. About time we learn to focus on the real issues. This country is in trouble.

Anonymous said...

With the other Unions jumping ship what else could CSA do. Your calculation of Party FIRST never crossed your mind?
Its sad the the Government has walked all over the CSA.
I expect within the year to hear about all the cuts that will be required in order to keep the country afloat. So if you think your deal is bad now lots worst to come.

Anonymous said...

I'm afraid that if the level of technical competence as exhibited by who W. Arthur Lewis thought best to train and lead the administrative direction of the West Indies through the UWI, performed so poorly in the management of their own future, then the region is in grave danger.

But here comes the kicker. William Demas ... in effect ... ADVISED that the output of UWI should be "sub-trained" (though NOT his exact words), so as not to be attractive candidates for a brain drain to First-World Countries.

How myopic!

The products of the UWI are almost everywhere in the CARIFTA now morphed into CARICOM area, as leaders of the political directorate in our sister countries.

How have these outputs been performing?

Even the UWI lecturers, as our goodly Dr. Kenny Anthony was, do not seem up to snuff when dealing with the issues they are confronted with on a global scale.

Witness the LEGAL failures associated with the Frenwell, Black Bay and Grenberg contracts.

Note too, the irony here.

The law is supposedly Dr. Anthony's strongest suit.

Debt and debt-related issues is in the realm of economics. This goes without saying.

Granted that the goodly doctor, is NOT an expert in economics, he therefore depends on his advisors.

If we re-examine his last major statement on economics with a perspective on the future, the Growth Conference jumps to mind.

But granted his speech was written in part by his advisors and the Ministry of Finance, it came very short in terms of showing any mastery of growth/transformation economics, and was devoid of any update/progress/status on any growth or policy set that the SLP has in place. So the PM, as usual, went through the motions making a speech, with a "what the hell am I to do here" expression on his face.

"...[O]ut of this debt ditch" you say?

Both political camps are clueless.

Well, if the past is any guide to the future, you would be well-advised NOT to hold your breath.

Anonymous said...

Simple, begin by stopping the hemorrhaging. Reduce the excesses. Insist on transparency and accountability from ministers, political appointees, contracted professionals, and the wider public service. Keep track of who's spending/charging what and why. Limit the use of state credit cards, and cut back on fruitless overseas trips with entourages greater than 3, impose phone codes to discourage trunk calls.

Lower than expected collections have proven that VAT, in its current form, has failed--reverse it. Create a "priority list" of all consultants detailing justifiable pay rates, tenure, and proven (in)effectiveness of programs/strategies recommended and implemented.

I honestly don't see why we can't hire consultants for a 6-month period to suggest and help implement strategies, and monitor the effects ourselves. Is it that difficult to tell if a program is useful? Consultancy is NOT a long-term position for retired party loyalists.

Once these measures are implemented, we can then focus on growth strategies. Question is: Do our leaders possess the will, integrity, and fortitude to do what's required?

Anonymous said...

Come. let us reason together, and let equity and discretion prevail in the conclusion of the matter. On its surface, the terms of the wage negotions seem right; fiduciary benefits are duly pledged to the base wages of employees - medical, education, travel allowances - Furthermore, negotiators seem to have ably defined the the parameters of that vexing phrase, 0% increase; identifying the the group of employees subject to such terms.
However, diligence and integrity will determine whether parties to the deed hve served labor relations in St. Lucia well.
Will we, in the future, reflect on this sapte of government and labor unions and give a final blessing to the value of integrity at the negotiation table?

Anonymous said...

"Members were of the view that a four percent increase will do nothing for them. Instead it would put a number of them in a higher tax bracket, meaning more taxes will be taken off them which would making a mockery of an increase of that amount."

This statement shows a clear misunderstanding of how marginal tax rates work. Ms. Isaac has gone on national television repeating this as well and either does not understand it either or is lying. Only the NEW income would be in the higher tax bracket should the 4% put someone in a higher tax bracket. Their OLD income will still be taxed at the exact rate as it was before.

Anonymous said...

Amateurs! You hear them?

Supposedly technical people in Saint Lucia, it would seem, do not understand technical issues pertaining to their own jobs.

They cannot even claim enlightened self-interest.

Now, these technical people are supposed to help government with technical advice and expertise. Yes?

Really?

But not with all this crap that is hitting the fans.

John Compton's social engineering of retiring people very early and replacing them with young, inexperienced and immature apprentices in government departments, some seemingly not even having abandoned their diapers yet, is biting our tails now.

Empty vessels and incompetents ... some of our country-bookie MPs being cases in point ... make the most noise.

Anonymous said...

What a Mess. No one is honing down on Government's WASTAGE. Expenditure. Loads of travelling by Ministers and their cronies.

What an illiterate society.